Anyone else beginning to like nightmare grinds?

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"Nightmare" grinds are referred to the compound grinds that have a flat, thick portion at the tip end and a hollow grind in the middle and handle end of the blade. It is not usually used to describe the concave edge line in tantos you are depicting (except the STRIDER). There are nightmare spearpoints and recurves.
 
robertmegar said:
"Nightmare" grinds are referred to the compound grinds that have a flat, thick portion at the tip end and a hollow grind in the middle and handle end of the blade. It is not usually used to describe the concave edge line in tantos you are depicting (except the STRIDER). There are nightmare spearpoints and recurves.

I'm ignorant here...could you explain further?
 
Actually, I changed my mind. Nightmare grind is an easy way for me to refer to this blade shape, so, when I say nightmare grind, everyone will know what I'm talking about.
 
Artfully Martial said:
[...] when I say nightmare grind, everyone will know what I'm talking about.

Umm...no. Like it or not, a nightmare grind is what robertmegar described. Of course you're free to use whatever term you deem suitable, but don't be surprised if people wonder what you're talking about.

The hawkbill/tanto hybrid shape you mean would probably be best described as a modified tanto, although that describes all kinds of unusual tanto-esque shapes.
 
Could never call anything Warren Osborne designed a 'nightmare,' but I do love the looks of those knives. Not necessarily for use, but dayum are they cool looking! Search for pics of a Strider Nightmare SLCC. Worth the yahooing/googling.
 
Quiet Storm said:
The hawkbill/tanto hybrid shape you mean would probably be best described as a modified tanto, although that describes all kinds of unusual tanto-esque shapes.

Kershaw describes the ZT0400 blade as having a "nightmare" grind. I know exactly what you're talking about AM, and I like the blades style too. I only wish the ZT was easier to find :(
 
korbiaka said:
I'm ignorant here...could you explain further?

Check the link I provided previously, there is an explanation based on the knifemaker that coined the term.

And AM, I am not trying to ridicule you or your knowledge but just trying to clarify.
 
nygiantsfan3342 said:
Kershaw describes the ZT0400 blade as having a "nightmare" grind.

Uh, where exactly does Kershaw describe it as such?

On the official Zero Tolerance Knives site they call it a modified tanto, which is exactly what I called this shape. And I didn't check their site beforehand.
The terms are not mutually exclusive or inclusive. Even if the Kershaw had a nightmare grind (which may or may not be the case since slight differences in grinds are not always easy to spot in pictures), that would not negate the fact that it's a modified tanto or whatever you want to call it. There's no reference to the nightmare grind in the ZT product description though

It's called nightmare grind (as in hollow grind) not nightmare shape (as in tanto shape) for a reason. That's not an overly difficult concept to grasp, is it? :rolleyes:

Please read robertmegar's posts.

nygiantsfan3342 said:
I know exactly what you're talking about AM, and I like the blades style too.

Of course you know what he is talking about now, he posted pics of what he refers to as nightmare ground knives. If someone posted pics of drop-point blades and called them Wharncliffes for whatever reason, you would know what he means by Wharncliffe too. Does that make it the correct term? Not at all.
 
I'm seeing the light in regard to the shape of these blades. IMO they have good potential from a EDC/outdoors perspective.

I do think there will be an upsurge, then it will subside, in the manufacture of this style; i.e. a bit of a fad, but, like American Tantos, it will be around for a while.
 
Alright, alright, you win. I made this post thinking that all nightmare ground knives were of roughly the same blade shape, but in researching further, I've found drop points that are nightmare ground also.

So, in order to prevent further confusion, I'll just call it the nightmare shape.

I know that nightmare grind was supposed to mean it was really difficult to grind--but I always felt a connection to that blade shape being nightmarish. Really crazy looking. And the nightmare shape is this exactly.

But yes, I do apologize, I was quite mistaken in thinking the grind and shape were synonamous.
 
They look like they would be a "Nightmare" to sharpen.

They seem to have a "cool factor" to them, but they don't rattle my cage - I must be getting old and boring.
 
Here's an example of a non nightmare blade shape nightmare grind.

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However, under closer examination of the ZT0400...

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Looks like it might be a legitimate nightmare grind after all.
 
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