Anyone else beginning to like nightmare grinds?

I actually like them. The Gaucho above is one of my favorite knives. IMHO, the blade shape allows for a broader range of controlled cuts while permitting you to choke up anywhere along the blade for those cuts.
 
Modified tantos look like this:

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I wonder how many nightmares Bud Nealy has after all the pesh kabz he's ground. gotta love hype
 
Nope not me, one step away from United Cutlery fantasy designs. They don't look useful, but made just to be eye candy.
 
I've found the "nightmare" grinds on Strider knives useful for draw knife applications.
 
I don't know not much into compound grinds at all. The deal for me is what do you do when the knife gets a bit dull? Send it back to the manufacture'r for sharpening? Not alot of practical use imho of these types of grinds. I am into straight blades or slightly dropped blades. Tons of practicality, easy to use, and well been proven and tested throughout the years. Simple in design is better when it comes to knife blades. keepem sharp
 
Well, I'll admit, the main reason these are growing on me is the aesthetic.

I think they're purty. Except for the 0400. That thing is hideous--in a really, really cool way.

Now that I'm thinking about it, wasn't tanto itself originally a grind, now become blade shape?

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I suppose that, in keeping faithful to our ever so technical discussion, we should let go of the idea that there was ever a tanto blade shape to be modified...since the designation is arbitrarily associated with a grind.
 
I have to admit the these knives do have "Mall Ninja" look to them :eek: , and yet I still like them a lot. Until I saw this post it never occured to me that MT Vector is one of them. Now I see the roots of my addiction. MT Vector was one of the first high end folders I bought and I still carry it occasionally:D .
 
Yeah, I didn't make the vector connection either until someone posted that. I actually like the knife a lot more now, as weird as that sounds...I always kind of (mis)perceived it as a weird hawkbill...
 
It is actually a very well made little slicer. The shape is weird and there are a few other minor flaws, but all in all it is an excellent knife and as all MTs comes scary sharp.
 
With respect to the more informed among us, I knew what you meant Martial. Personally, I think such complex grinds are developed to sell knives. I subscribe to the "If you build it, they will come" notion. The most complex grind I will buy is a tanto like Cold Steel introduced. I'm not sure I see any practical advantage to these complex designs and I'm just not sufficiently skilled to keep these other artful creations sharp.

Bill
 
Quiet Storm said:
Uh, where exactly does Kershaw describe it as such?

On the official Zero Tolerance Knives site they call it a modified tanto, which is exactly what I called this shape. And I didn't check their site beforehand.
The terms are not mutually exclusive or inclusive. Even if the Kershaw had a nightmare grind (which may or may not be the case since slight differences in grinds are not always easy to spot in pictures), that would not negate the fact that it's a modified tanto or whatever you want to call it. There's no reference to the nightmare grind in the ZT product description though

It's called nightmare grind (as in hollow grind) not nightmare shape (as in tanto shape) for a reason. That's not an overly difficult concept to grasp, is it? :rolleyes:

Please read robertmegar's posts.

Of course you know what he is talking about now, he posted pics of what he refers to as nightmare ground knives. If someone posted pics of drop-point blades and called them Wharncliffes for whatever reason, you would know what he means by Wharncliffe too. Does that make it the correct term? Not at all.
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Here you go smart guy: http://www.tadgear.com/edged tools/zt0400.htm

That's where I saw the term Nightmare grind. And the purpose of Artfully Martial's thread was to see who liked these types of blade styles. If attacking someone who "misuses" the term Nighmare grind makes you feel better, then you can attack me all you want.

I like the Nightmare Style Grind or Shape (whichever Quiet Storm approves). Does anyone else like them, and do they offer any practical benefits?
 
but only strider? not the other 4 or 5 makers that put the nightmare grind on their blade?


Fyi :whether it screams mall ninja or not, it cuts just fine ;)
 
nygiantsfan3342 said:
Here you go smart guy: http://www.tadgear.com/edged tools/zt0400.htm

That's where I saw the term Nightmare grind.
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As we figured out near the bottom of page one, it has indeed a nightmare grind. However, that has nothing, nada, zilch to do with its blade shape.

nygiantsfan3342 said:
I like the Nightmare Style Grind or Shape (whichever Quiet Storm approves).
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As I said, the shape AM refers to is a modified tanto, and this is precisely what it says on ZT's website.

It's not a matter of which term I prefer, it's just that grind and blade shape are two entirely different things.
A few examples of blade shapes are spearpoint and sheepfoot. Examples of blade grinds are hollow and saber.

I can only imagine how confused you must be when you read about a knife with a "convex-ground clip-point blade" or one with a "flat-ground drop-point blade". :rolleyes:

May I politely suggest that you do a search or ask the knifemakers in Shop Talk and educate yourself on the difference if neither robertmegar's nor my explanation is good enough for you to understand the difference?
 
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