Anyone else want to see a choil-less Manix 2?

FlaMtnBkr said:
If you think a choil will save your fingers in a lock failure I think you have a false sense of security. If you are using enough force to cause a lock failure the choil will push your finger down the handle and the blade will do its damage. It will stop a blade when flipping it closed but not when there is force behind it.

I know because it happened to me and the only thing that really saved me is the blade was dull and I was choked up so the blade hit my finger nail first and made the cut I received not nearly as bad.
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It's definitely better than nothing, can slow down the momentum to make the cut less severe, and also it's for protection not just during a broken lock, but an accidental closing (you accidentally engage the lock) or during routine closing, like on a liner-lock or backlock, where your fingers could be in the way. Plus, a lock can break and still fold without massive force, and if you're white-knuckling the handle, chance are your hand won't move. Your experience is a valid one, but certainly a single anecdote does not say much for the overall usefulness in similar circumstances.
 
I vote to keep the choil. But since we're asking, I would love it if the thumb and index finger were a bit closer together when choking up. So I would like the choil to be a little deeper and with a less pronounced bump behind it.

I hated how finger choils looked when I moved up from a Tenacious so I went to the Delica/Endura pair just to avoid them. But my experience with the Natives really made me appreciate how useful they were.
 
mentaculus said:
It's definitely better than nothing, can slow down the momentum to make the cut less severe, and also it's for protection not just during a broken lock, but an accidental closing (you accidentally engage the lock) or during routine closing, like on a liner-lock or backlock, where your fingers could be in the way. Plus, a lock can break and still fold without massive force, and if you're white-knuckling the handle, chance are your hand won't move. Your experience is a valid one, but certainly a single anecdote does not say much for the overall usefulness in similar circumstances.
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I still wouldn't put any confidence in a choil stopping an accidental closing. I can hold a knife with a choil very tightly and with the lock released apply only a few pounds of force on the back of the blade and it easily pushes my finger out of the way where the blade will contact my finger. If I can do that with a small force then I just don't think it is worth relying on. Even flippers will push my finger out of the way and they have a lot more metal to stop the blade. Pick up a few knives with a choil and try it yourself. I don't think it will only effect me in this way.
 
That would be nice, the choil on the Manix 2 is the only reason I don't own one yet. I'd really love to see a U.S. Made, CBBL, Tenacious in S30V or D2 or something. That would be fantastic, but highly unlikely.
 
While I have a few spydercos with choil, I too would like to see the Manix 2 without, that is why I love the tenacious and persistence with the full leaf blade.
 
I just got my Manix II so I can safely say that yes, I needs me choils. I do however, understand needing more blade-length and with the Millie and Gayle Bradley both being liner-locks, I can understand wanting a longer-bladed Manix or Superleaf for the beefier lock-system (even though the Gayle Bradley's liners are darn near frame-lock thick).

So even though I don't need the extra blade-length myself, I get the need for it.
 
I like the M2 the way it is. I wouldn't change it, personally. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :thumbup:
 
Well I wouldn't have an objection to seeing something like the Manix 2 without a choil, though in my case the choil was one of the selling points for me.

However, i think if you took the choil out without other mods it would make the ball bearing lock more dangerous to close one handed. I donno about you guys, but i close my manix by letting the blade swing down until the choil contacts my finger. then switch grips to close.
 
Thats actually the one thing that I think really sets spydercos apart from other manufacturers. it does have that choil on their blades which helps to make it really comfy to hold and quite ergonomic!!!!


i dig it and would not like to see it removed. You can get along without one, but i like it better with one.
 
I just recived my black Manix 2 and I really enjoy the choil and how I can choke up my grip close to the blade. I find that the ergonomics work very well and that my fingers find a solid grip after opening with the spydiehole. It feels as a very good working knife.
 
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