Review Anyone else's M4 DLC Shaman seem off?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Julian Williams, Feb 17, 2020.

  1. Julian Williams

    Julian Williams

    67
    Apr 22, 2019
    Was excited for my first Shaman, but the more I look over my example the more its apparent this should've been a "seconds".
    Came with an inch long (light thankfully) scratch on the blade. Heard most DLC scratches can be rubbed off, but after much cleaning, this one won't go away. Don't mind scratches but I like to be the one that puts them there.

    The action is super stiff despite loosening the pivot and opening/ closing it to break in. Appears that its detent was set overly strong.

    Appears some mishap happened while assembling it? The "nub" on the blade has DLC slightly scrapped where it looks like it was rubbing on the compression lock tab. The tab itself also has an indentation of where it looks like the nub scrapped over it.
    I don't know what happened during the assembly of the knife, and perhaps I'm just a picky jerk, but for the price I wanted better. I'd expect this on a $40 RAT 1. Tried to get it good in pictures, but my phone wasn't cooperating too well with the close up shots. (If I need to move this thread, Ill gladly to do so).

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  2. edge13

    edge13

    105
    Dec 1, 2014
    I haven't gotten mine yet. Was supposed to be in on Saturday and USPS decided to not show up and now I'm stuck waiting till tomorrow due to presidents day. I will update when it gets in.

    -EG
     
  3. Julian Williams

    Julian Williams

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    Apr 22, 2019
    I hate when stuff like that happens, but I'd def appreciate an update. I'm sure most of them are fine, but some feedback from other owners would be nice.
     
  4. edge13

    edge13

    105
    Dec 1, 2014

    Just picked it up from my house while I was on lunch. Detent is strong, but not obnoxiously strong. After flicking it and starting to break it in its starting to feel better. Its not a drop closer like my Para 3, but I don't mind. It will break in over time.

    -EG
     
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  5. DocJD

    DocJD

    Jan 29, 2016
    If you paid Spyderco MAPP , I wouldn't hesitate to return it for replacement or something else .
     
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  6. edge13

    edge13

    105
    Dec 1, 2014
    They were like $240 if i remember correctly.
     
  7. TheFactor

    TheFactor Life is good ! Platinum Member

    Feb 26, 2015
    You might of got a return but not likely unless it was a quick turn around. I’ve had a few spyderco’s that had some scratches on the blade out of the box but under a bright light turning the blade to capture them. That was Stone washed though not DLC and it was many years ago. Since then I’ve got nothing but first class examples and I’ve had many.
    As far as the Shaman mine came tight with no blade play but wasn’t drop free either. I normally like to break mine in a little before adjusting the pivot even if it’s tight out of the box. So after a day or two of opening and closing off and on I adjusted the pivot and now it’s at the sweet spot being free falling and no side to side play what so ever or up and down of course. Some take longer to break in some seem like they never will like a Strider lol.
     
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  8. tyyreaun

    tyyreaun Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 26, 2017
    These sold out within a few hours of listing, so it's probably not possible.

    Sorry, I think you just got one where the guy at the factory wasn't as careful as he should have been.

    For this exact reason, I've gotten into the habit of ordering two knives whenever I'm buying a drop that'll sell out quickly, then just re-selling one of them if they're both fine. In this case, both my Shamans were in great condition. The pivot was stiff on both out of the box, but for the one I kept, after disassembly and lubrication, it's smooth as butter.

    The pivot/detent issue can probably be fixed with lubrication, maybe disassembly, and just letting it break in. For the scratches, not much you can do - I doubt Spyderco would re-DLC it. Either live with it, or return it, I guess?

    Sorry for the bad luck :(
     
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  9. Julian Williams

    Julian Williams

    67
    Apr 22, 2019
    Glad it arrived okay! From what I hear on Reddit, most of them don't seem like drop closers.

    Thanks, it was bought new by me and I think I'll see if Spyderco can at least fix the absurd detent.

    Gotcha, I was curious as to if I was just expecting too much from them lol. I'm hoping Spyderco can fix it to be like your example. Adding some Nano oil to the dent ball and path helped a lot.

    Thanks for the sentiment. The more I look at it the more it does seem like the factory may have just slipped up on this one. Opened it up and found it was quite dirty, along with having a burr/ gash near the dent. Hoping Spyderco can help me out. But next time a limited release happens I'll definitely take your advice and get two for safety!
     
  10. Julian Williams

    Julian Williams

    67
    Apr 22, 2019
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    Burr? on the lockbar near the detent ball. Seems like the lock side was just jacked up from the factory, resulting in an overly strong detent and whatever is going on near the detent ball. I really want to like this knife, so Im planning on seeing if Spyderco can do something.
     
  11. tyyreaun

    tyyreaun Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 26, 2017
    Incidentally, there was a Nick Shabazz video the other day where he called out some other maker for burr on the lockbar, too. I forget which video it was in, but I'm pretty sure it was a relatively high-end maker. It happens.
     

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