Anyone ever been embarrassed about fellow knife enthusiasts?

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What particularly bothers me is the "a knife is a tool " sort of folk.
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I think I understand what your point is, but I DO carry knives as a tool, not to show-off. I have been known to carry a Civilian as well as other knives designed purely for SD. In addition, I will carry a small pen-knife with 1"-1.5" blades. This is what I will "whip out" for cutting chores. My SD knives rarely leave my side and are never used for chores. Why risk dulling the edge in the off, off chance that it will actually be needed?
 
Take care in what you want your knife categorized as. I prefer to call a knife a knife. If we call them weapons then the Gov. will agree and set restrictions on them. If we call them tools, then again we help the "Hoplophobes" in the same sense. Tools will need blunted tips and blades no longer than 1.5 inches in length and have handles large enough that they do not facilitate easy pocket concealment. I can see it now. Knives are just that knives. We have put them in more than enough sub categories, such as folding / fixed / locking / and so on... Every one of us has our own uses for the Knives we carry. It's like when my friends try to explain that their guns are not weapons but the tools used to hunt. It just gets all convoluted. A gun is a gun and people with any sense no that no matter if they like them or not. The same is true with knives. The knife is not the issue it's the person holding it and the person that sees it... That is where the fixing begins... Not the name or definition of the knife....
 
I'm missing something here. I fail to see a conection with weight and knife ownership. I'm overweight so are you sugesting I should stop carrying knives and look for a thin person to open boxes for me and trim my hangnails. There are many resons to carry a knife. In many states, if a police officer asks you why you have a knife and you respond, "for self defense," you quickly become guilty of carying a concealed weapon. Therefore, it's the self defense crowd that give knife enthusiasts a bad name.
 
babakanoosh45 said:
The knife is not the issue it's the person holding it and the person that sees it... That is where the fixing begins... Not the name or definition of the knife....
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This is true with everything, our cultural and linguistic background shape how we observe and interpret the stimuli we receive from the outside world. Furthermore our own experiences also influence this.
 
pvicenzi said:
I'm missing something here. I fail to see a conection with weight and knife ownership. I'm overweight so are you sugesting I should stop carrying knives and look for a thin person to open boxes for me and trim my hangnails. There are many resons to carry a knife. In many states, if a police officer asks you why you have a knife and you respond, "for self defense," you quickly become guilty of carying a concealed weapon. Therefore, it's the self defense crowd that give knife enthusiasts a bad name.
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The connection is, I'm afraid, a psychological one in the mind of the original poster. I can't see this as anything but some sort of expression about one's self -- to worry about the physical appearance of other people who are coicidentally engaged in the same hobby seems to me to be equal parts projection and insecurity. I don't mean that disrespectfully or with any sort of rancor, as the original poster obviously was not trying to be offensive or confrontational. That is, however, the only conclusion I can reach.
 
this is a pen, we all carry one, we all use one every day. It is a tool
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this is what happens when a pen is stabbed thru a man's neck:
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or this: http://www.wpbf.com/news/17322630/detail.html


note that in the above violent incidents, the pen was not the instigator. It was simply a tool that was handy. The ACT of STABBING was perpetrated by a PERSON. A tool such as a pen is incapable of self thought, or violent actions.

Dont see anyone freaking out about a pen, or a piece of string, or glass bottle, or a dinner plate, or a fork, or a spoon etc etc etc etc etc etc etc, yest all of these can be used BY A PERSON to seriously harm or kill a man. In the case of the spoon it obviously made rosie Odonell fat right? because tools are capable of such actions. right? NOT!!!!! again, these items, and knives are incapable of inflicting any harm unless someone picks them up and PHYSICALLY harms someone with it.

see the hypocrisy.......

as for the relation to the original topic.......people are so focused on the OBJECT used, that they fail to see that it takes a PERSON to pick up said object and harm another person with it. The tools themselves are INCAPABLE of doing that themselves.
 
maybe you should go to knife shows in south beach where the beautiful knife collectors are? this is supposed to be about knives,not about you checking out cute guys at knife shows there are other forums out there for that sir.
 
Wow!,
I just joined this forum and maybe it was a mistake. You're absolutely correct, your post does make you sound like a PRI*K. Yes, knife collectors as a whole may be an overweight lot, myself included. But it is a hobby, maybe you should be involved some sort of soldier of fortune, looking in the mirror, day dreaming of a knife-fight type group. Some overweight people can help it, again myself included, but some cannot. Should they be excluded? How about handicapped people? I bet you could cut someone easily that was in a wheelchair big man.
 
Confederate said:
There's always a "fringe" part of any group, but in this case simply being overweight signifies what? If knives are carried for self defense and mostly as weapons, you have a point. If, however, a knife is used for opening bags of potato chips and packets of onion dip, or if it's used to open UPS packages containing more knives, then it really doesn't make sense to criticize.

Most popular knives here, I would venture to say, have blades of three inches or so. Many own Spyderco or other brands that primarily cater to the pocket knife crowd. Since I tend to carry larger knives, I expect it to pull duty in every way conceivable.

There are always embarrassments, but they don't have to involve weight, but just careless judgment. Remember this clown? Bad judgment, especially in public, can reflect on all knife, and in this case, gun owners.

Then there are just the weird cases, like this one...yeeeeeesh!
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LMAO I've never seen those, but the Lecturer on the Glock was a real piece of work wouldn't you say.
 
Why would one human be embarrassed about another?
Unless it's your close kin or husband, wife, or a b/f or g/f.
I don't go about being embarrassed about people in general. I cover my own butt best I can and everybody else is on their own.
 
I don't judge others on appearances, because I look in the mirror a couple times a day. :D I'm obese @ 320 lbs., but aside from arthritis in my upper back, I'm pretty mobile most days. I would hope I wouldn't be judged on my appearance alone. (I wrestle with the same demon many others do, and that's over-eating.)

For me, I place a greater importance on character and behavior. How a person looks is less an issue for me than how they conduct themselves. We live in ranch country, and some folks here dress pretty grubby, simply because of the nature of the work they do. But they're the kind of folks who'll stop and help you change a tire in the rain, or tell you to go ahead in line at the store because you've got fewer items, or they'll drop what they're doing and take your kids on a horse ride, or spend all day helping you re-pour your driveway after you dig the tree roots out...you name it, they'll do it. And they'll never ask for anything in return. And a lot of 'em look similar to me.

And almost everyone here carrys a knife of some kind; and for them, a knife IS a tool. They don't "wield" it, they carry & use it, several times a day. Ask anyone here, and they'll tell you that the only thing they "wield" for defense is the .44 in the dresser by the bed. And that's only if the dogs don't get to the "threat" first. :)

I love it here, in part because I relate to the big, blue-collar, redneck type.

That's just my $0.02.

thx - cpr
 
keithw said:
Wow!,
I just joined this forum and maybe it was a mistake. You're absolutely correct, your post does make you sound like a PRI*K. Yes, knife collectors as a whole may be an overweight lot, myself included. But it is a hobby, maybe you should be involved some sort of soldier of fortune, looking in the mirror, day dreaming of a knife-fight type group. Some overweight people can help it, again myself included, but some cannot. Should they be excluded? How about handicapped people? I bet you could cut someone easily that was in a wheelchair big man.
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yes i'm a prick. very astute observation :cool:
 
rorylaptop said:
maybe you should go to knife shows in south beach where the beautiful knife collectors are? this is supposed to be about knives,not about you checking out cute guys at knife shows there are other forums out there for that sir.
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A) i'm in Canada, no idea where south beach is.

B) my post was about knives, read it again

C) not appropriate content. Reported
 
soupah said:
You are correct, I do feel shallow for bringing this up. I still can't help but think it's worth discussing.

And for what it's worth, I'm not embarrassed of my overweight friends, this is more about the knife community.

I'll say it again-I guess I am a jerk.
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It is not the fat around the middle, but the fat between the ears that counts. If you are gaging the man by how closely he resembles some Hollywood stereotype, then it is you who should be embarrassed. Fat and thin, is largely independent of health and strength, or utilty and reliability. If the guys aren't pretty enough for you, then don't look at them; you should be paying more attention to the gals anyway :)

n2s
 
I notice a lot of fatasses at the gun range, too.

$1500 AR-15 with all the accessories and a gut to match. Always struck me as odd, because one of the (many) reasons you own something like that is to survive a conflict. Kind of counterproductive when you can't sprint 20 ft. without getting winded.

I laugh at the absurdity, not at the actual weight. With excess money and credit just floating around, these days people trade ingenuity for gear. It's easier to go purchase a $150 tactical folder and a pseudo-military backpack filled with survival goods than it is to go out and get physically fit.
 
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