Anyone ever have his knife confiscated by the police?

I had my knife confiscated by Disneyland Security. When I lived in socal my wife and I had the disneyland passes. We used to go at least once a week, sometimes two or three times. I always carried a CRKT m16-01z. Every single time. I never had any problems whatsoever going through security. And it was always visible, clipped to my pocket. Then one sunday, I wore my raiders shirt. Mind you, I do not look like a "classic" raider fan. I look like a regular white guy, the only difference being that day I was wearing a raider shirt. Anyways some lady is like "Oh my god is that a knife?" and I said yes and she made a big deal about it and had to call security so they could confiscate the knife. And then they let me in. Still makes me mad. At least it was a cheap knife.
 
raiderfan1890 said:
I had my knife confiscated by Disneyland Security. When I lived in socal my wife and I had the disneyland passes. We used to go at least once a week, sometimes two or three times. I always carried a CRKT m16-01z. Every single time. I never had any problems whatsoever going through security. And it was always visible, clipped to my pocket. Then one sunday, I wore my raiders shirt. Mind you, I do not look like a "classic" raider fan. I look like a regular white guy, the only difference being that day I was wearing a raider shirt. Anyways some lady is like "Oh my god is that a knife?" and I said yes and she made a big deal about it and had to call security so they could confiscate the knife. And then they let me in. Still makes me mad. At least it was a cheap knife.
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They had no legal right to take your knife. Quite frankly, they stole it. Even when you are on private property (like Disneyland property) neither the owners of that property nor their agents have any legal right to take your property. Did you consider putting it in your car?

When people are allowed to get away with illegal activities (like stealing peoples knives), they will be encouraged to commit more such crimes.
 
killgar said:
They had no legal right to take your knife. Quite frankly, they stole it. Even when you are on private property (like Disneyland property) the owners or their agents have NO legal right to take your property. Did you consider putting it in your car?

When people are allowed to get away with illegal activities (like stealing peoples knives), they will be encouraged to commit more such crimes.
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As long as they give it back when he leaves, it ain't theft by any definition.
And every private property owner has the right to deny entry if certain conditions aren't met. You want to go on the rides, your knife stays at home or in the car.

Or you just don't go, which is cheaper anyway.;)
 
They gave me the option of putting it away or confiscating it. I just let them take it because it was a cheap knife and I was too lazy to go back to the car because it was such a cheap knife. But I have always felt like I was singled out simply for wearing a shirt of a football team that people view negatively. As I mentioned I have taken a knife into disneyland before and after without any problems whatsoever.
 
Nope, especially since I've been EDCing smaller folders lately (been EDCing Brous SSF and Small Sebbie exclusively as of late) I'll occasionally EDC my CQC-13 and ZT 0560 though, but not often, and they're legal here.
 
I've had three Emerson folders (cqc-7, and super 7 x2) confiscated, from campus police back in college. Wonderful knives, evidently the officers thought they were too. Never received charges, just the "warning" and the sight of my knife sliding into their pocket. Lesson learned: leave the nice toys at home if going out past 10 pm. While I have no problems with police in general, one would think that the tax payer provided salary would be sufficient for the outstanding members of the police force to purchase their own tools.
 
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No I haven't.

If I did, I would talk calmly and reference a knife as an edged tool for my daily chores.

Most importantly, I also try to carry knives that don't look like weapons.

Not weapon like: "Friendly"
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Weapon like: "Menacing"
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stabman said:
As long as they give it back when he leaves, it ain't theft by any definition.
And every private property owner has the right to deny entry if certain conditions aren't met. You want to go on the rides, your knife stays at home or in the car.

Or you just don't go, which is cheaper anyway.;)
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The issue regarding theft is CONSENT. If you CONSENT to them taking it then it isn't theft. If you DO NOT CONSENT to them taking it, and they still take it, that IS theft, even if they intend to give it back later. Ones supposed intentions to return property later, when that property was taken without the owners consent, is no defense in court against theft charges. Private property owners don't get to write their own laws.

Naturally the owners of private property and their agents have the legal right to order you off their property for any reason and call the cops and press tresspassing charges if you refuse.

If Raiderfan consented to hand it over, with the clear understanding that it would be returned when he left, and if they refused to return it, then at that point it would become theft.

At least they gave him the choice to put in in his car.
 
Yep. I was 16 and it was after curfew. He gave me a lift home (cop knew my dad). But before I jumped in the car, he asked for my knife. He gave it back when he dropped me off. No dogs were shot.
 
DedRok said:
No I haven't.

If I did, I would talk calmly and reference a knife as an edged tool for my daily chores.

Most importantly, I also try to carry knives that don't look like weapons.

Not weapon like: "Friendly"
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Weapon like: "Menacing"
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Hee hee, those both look pretty weapon-like to a non-knife-person...
 
killgar said:
The issue regarding theft is CONSENT. If you CONSENT to them taking it then it isn't theft. If you DO NOT CONSENT to them taking it, and they still take it, that IS theft, even if they intend to give it back later. Ones supposed intentions to return property later, when that property was taken without the owners consent, is no defense in court against theft charges. Private property owners don't get to write their own laws.

Naturally the owners of private property and their agents have the legal right to order you off their property for any reason and call the cops and press tresspassing charges if you refuse.

If Raiderfan consented to hand it over, with the clear understanding that it would be returned when he left, and if they refused to return it, then at that point it would become theft.

At least they gave him the choice to put in in his car.
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I don't think theft was the issue with Disneyland security.
They just decided not to permit him on their property with the knife in his possession.
Whether he could have made arrangements to get it back later is conjecture at this point,
because it doesn't appear that he attempted to do so at the time.
 
killgar said:
My advice for dealing with law enforcement-

Know your local knife laws. Know your rights.

Find your local knife laws online, print them out, and carry a copy in your wallet. Believe it or not, but showing a cop that you know the law, and actually showing him the law, can and has prevented knives from being confiscated.

If a cop trys to tell you that your knife is illegal, tell him "That's not what my lawyer told me. If you take my knife I will call him and have him meet me at your station". Naturally this is a bluff, but it can work.

If a cop insists on taking your knife, ask to speak to their supervisor. Their uniformed superior officer should be riding around in another police car. Also, politely ask for their name and badge number. Look at the name tag on their chest and at their badge so you can record the info yourself. Write down any identifying numbers on their police car. Write down their license plate number.

Whether or not you choose to fight through legal channels to get your knife back is up to you. But I say, if you are willing to let the police illegally take your lawful property without standing up for your rights, then you don't deserve those rights.

Another idea if you are truly concerned about you knife being confiscated is to have your personal info ingraved somewhere on the knife. It would be pretty hard for a dishonest cop to say that it was HIS knife, or that he found it, or that he took it off someone else, if it has YOUR name engraved on it.

And if you think that you will incur the wrath of the cops, or that they will drum-up some reason to arrest you if you try to get your knife back, well, that's exactly what they want you to think. That's how they get away with violating peoples rights.
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If that's are how some cops act, they should be suspended when violating someone's rights.
 
Maniacal Pete said:
I don't think theft was the issue with Disneyland security.
They just decided not to permit him on their property with the knife in his possession.
Whether he could have made arrangements to get it back later is conjecture at this point,
because it doesn't appear that he attempted to do so at the time.
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I agree. I originally said "they stole it" based on Raiderfans initial post where he said they "confiscated" the knife. He didn't mention in that post that he voluntarily gave the knife up and that he was given the choice to put it in his car. I understand the definition of "confiscate" to be "to seize by power of authority", which is another way of saying "they took it without my consent", which was the impression I got from his initial post.

All apologies to Disneyland security. No offense intended. :)
 
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kestrel57 said:
If that's are how some cops act, they should be suspended when violating someone's rights.
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I would suggest a more severe punishment. I believe that cops should go to jail, or prison, when they violate someones constitutional rights using the power of their authority.
 
I've heard to politely ask for a property receipt, but if the cop is against you I recommend that you should draw the line where your property becomes disposable. It's hard to get over, but a couple hundred dollars is a lot less than a screwed up record (yes, even if your just arrested and not found guilty), or the hours lost from work if you were to get arrested.

killgar said:
I would suggest a more severe punishment. I believe that cops should go to jail, or prison, when they violate someones constitutional rights using the power of their authority.
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That's why there is Federal, and/or other departments - to help keep the honest honest.

Just like when Mexico had to call the U.S. in to help clean up its government a couple of years ago
 
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