Anyone ever received a "dull-ish" new CRK?

RevDevil said:
Of the CR knive i own, they were all sharp, I mean really sharp. The exception was the very first Sebenza I had, it was one with a puzzle pattern, it was not sharp at all. I sent it back and got one with the Micarta inlays instead, and that was super sharp. Huge difference. My Umnumzaan was one of the sharpest I had out of the box. The fact is that all manufacturers let something lide through QC that is not at 100%, humans make the knives so it is part of the game. Given the chance, I've rarely seen any manufacturer not make a whole hearted effort to make it right.
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That's true Charlie. I can understand the random knife slipping through QC, as long as it doesn't become a regular pattern.

It certainly isn't limited to one particular manufacturer. Perhaps what I have read in the past has some truth to it. The more human hands that touch a particular item, the more chance there are for mistakes lol.. Something along those lines.
 
338375 said:
That's true Charlie. I can understand the random knife slipping through QC, as long as it doesn't become a regular pattern.

It certainly isn't limited to one particular manufacturer. Perhaps what I have read in the past has some truth to it. The more human hands that touch a particular item, the more chance there are for mistakes lol.. Something along those lines.
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Pretty close as I have stated something very similar here before..Kind of weird to see it again..but, unfortunately, it's been my experience, especially where manufacturing is taking place. Most of the time, each part in production isn't necessarily completed by one person. One operation takes place on one machine to accomplish one set of tasks, then passed on to the next for each succeeding operation until the part is complete. Along this chain, all it takes, is one person to have a bad day...Thus complacency and or a failure to have a spec part. To the chagrin of many people..each part is not inspected for compliance..it's more of a spot check after the run is set up and checked off by the inspector.

At least, in my experience...ymmv
 
bhyde said:
Pretty close as I have stated something very similar here before..Kind of weird to see it again..but, unfortunately, it's been my experience, especially where manufacturing is taking place. Most of the time, each part in production isn't necessarily completed by one person. One operation takes place on one machine to accomplish one set of tasks, then passed on to the next for each succeeding operation until the part is complete. Along this chain, all it takes, is one person to have a bad day...Thus complacency and or a failure to have a spec part. To the chagrin of many people..each part is not inspected for compliance..it's more of a spot check after the run is set up and checked off by the inspector.

At least, in my experience...ymmv
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That's true, and a good point.
 
I have to say, I am a little surprised by the number of complaints in this thread. I have a small sample size to go from, but it is 100% good edges.

I should perhaps add that "sharpness" out of the box really can be a misnomer. A lot of knives I have owned have come out of the box like lasers only to rapidly degrade over a few days use to "sort of sharp". A truly WELL honed edge will perform much longer...I like to build these types of edges myself (I enjoy it...it is a sickness). Anyway, my only disappointment (this is silly) wiht CRK is that their edges are good enough that it is quite a while before I can justify putting MY edge on the knife.

In one case, I thought my edge would be better than CRKs (straight out of the box), but I still us the factory edge to give it an honest run. It was a great edge...when I put my edge on, I do believe it was quite a bit better, but show me the person that would complain about the fatory edge it came with and Ill show you someone that needs to be spending more than I did for that inlaid DT blade!

[video=youtube_share;_ksfR94i17s]http://youtu.be/_ksfR94i17s[/video]
 
Lol, the first time I saw a video of someone doing the phone book cut was on the forum, made me realize my sharpening skills are not that good.
 
As far as the cutting demonstrations I have done/seen over the years, this one is perhaps the least impressive to me, but it does demonstrate a lot about blade geometry. If the knife is made well, it will be capable of this cut, and if the edge is honed well, it should do this for quite a while after it has been sharpened.

It is really hard to look at an edge and see the defects that will prevent it from holding up like this. That is my point, I guess. Some guys expect an expensive knife to whittle or treetop hair out of the box...as lofty as that is, a lot of edges that will do this also degrade at an alarming rate. When PROPERLY honed, and edge will perform real world tasks better and longer than it takes to make a couple photos and videos;) I say this assuming that people actually use their knives the way I do (daily and realistically...like opening mail, cutting boxes, rope etc.)

CRK seems to really get this concept and has delivered it well to the few knives I have purchased over the years from them. That is why I am surprised by some of the comments above...but like I said, I have only experienced a few...
 
unit said:
As far as the cutting demonstrations I have done/seen over the years, this one is perhaps the least impressive to me, but it does demonstrate a lot about blade geometry. If the knife is made well, it will be capable of this cut, and if the edge is honed well, it should do this for quite a while after it has been sharpened.

It is really hard to look at an edge and see the defects that will prevent it from holding up like this. That is my point, I guess. Some guys expect an expensive knife to whittle or treetop hair out of the box...as lofty as that is, a lot of edges that will do this also degrade at an alarming rate. When PROPERLY honed, and edge will perform real world tasks better and longer than it takes to make a couple photos and videos;) I say this assuming that people actually use their knives the way I do (daily and realistically...like opening mail, cutting boxes, rope etc.)

CRK seems to really get this concept and has delivered it well to the few knives I have purchased over the years from them. That is why I am surprised by some of the comments above...but like I said, I have only experienced a few...
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In all honesty Ken I'm not qualified to comment on the issue because I haven't owned one yet, but I'm spending more time here because I am getting closer to finally buying.
I do start getting concerned and curious when I see threads like this, from a company that is well known for the quality they build into their products. In the past I never gave them much thought, but over time seeing a big increase in QC issues from another major player, I hope it doesn't start happening to another company that I like and respect.

I do need to remind myself when I see threads like this or pertaining to other QC issues, that those of us that frequent BF's are just a small percentage of the overall sales, so the total percentage of "issues" is probably still fairly small.

Sometimes the interwebz aren't always a good thing :D
 
Very true on the numbers Mike-

Think of it like this; When there isn't a problem, you're likely not to say too much..When you do have a problem, the whole world is going to find out about it..
At least, this has been a trend.
 
bhyde said:
Very true on the numbers Mike-

Think of it like this; When there isn't a problem, you're likely not to say too much..When you do have a problem, the whole world is going to find out about it..
At least, this has been a trend.
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Yep. I have noticed the same thing on the Dodge Ram Cummins forum. I posted all the time when I had my 2013 because it was a total POS.
After I traded it in on a 2014, I have had only a couple small issues, so after owning it for a few months, I started a thread a new thread explaining my happiness, and telling about the good points. Only seemed right after bitching about the 13 for almost a year :D
 
Let's not get it confused here. Like I mentioned in the op, this reflects nothing on what I feel about the quality of crk knives. I'm just as much of a fan now, as I was before receiving the dull knife. I've even spent 1k on a mammoth/damascus sebbie after the fact ;) So even if I did have a "problem", it hasn't stopped me from continuing to support the company.
 
BoyNamedStacy said:
Let's not get it confused here. Like I mentioned in the op, this reflects nothing on what I feel about the quality of crk knives. I'm just as much of a fan now, as I was before receiving the dull knife. I've even spent 1k on a mammoth/damascus sebbie after the fact ;) So even if I did have a "problem", it hasn't stopped me from continuing to support the company.
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Not sure that anyone was singling you out at all..I was merely pointing out that the number of problems is likely very small from most companies.
What you were asking for isn't really out of the norm or the expectation..It's just a reality..No more, no less.
These threads, believe it or not, have the ability to be quite educational..I know there is much I myself have learned :)
 
I thought my Lg Sebenza was pretty sharp until my Wife's Mnandi came in the mail. My knife shaves hair with slight pressure. All I do is wave her knife over my arm the hair jumps off. In all honesty both knives are sharp but her's is Chosera sharp.
 
BoyNamedStacy said:
Let's not get it confused here. Like I mentioned in the op, this reflects nothing on what I feel about the quality of crk knives. I'm just as much of a fan now, as I was before receiving the dull knife. I've even spent 1k on a mammoth/damascus sebbie after the fact ;) So even if I did have a "problem", it hasn't stopped me from continuing to support the company.
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It shouldn't stop you from buying more CRK products. In my short time hanging out here, I have certainly seen very few complaints. There aren't many companies that can say the same thing...

$1,000 for a knife ? Are you nuts ? :D
JK.... Actually sounds very nice. Mammoth and Damascus, what's not to like ? :thumbup:

bhyde said:
Not sure that anyone was singling you out at all..I was merely pointing out that the number of problems is likely very small from most companies.
What you were asking for isn't really out of the norm or the expectation..It's just a reality..No more, no less.
These threads, believe it or not, have the ability to be quite educational..I know there is much I myself have learned :)
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Absolutely. Until the arguing begins, and those on both sides become blinded, and lose track of what the original topic was :D Not saying that happens here because everyone for the most part is very civil, but I think we have all seen it happen in other areas
 
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