Anyone have Dave Canterburys book?

[BearKinder]

If you want to take thois to its logical conclusion, what have any of us done that is truly original?

As the good book says, "There's nothing new under the sun."

At some point, someone ripped off the ideas of Ugg and Grugg, and it went from there.

 

[pict]

Dude, how many "original" survival ideas are there out there?

Your assertion that DC ripped off pict is a joke. The only thing common in those machete vids is the brand of machete. I love Colhane and giutoniolo, and if anyone ripped them off, I'd be p-ssed, but you are making things up here.

I had originally brought it up on a post on BCUSA and stand by my reasons for doing so that I explained there. Since then I was told the machete in Dave's video had been mailed to him with the scandi mod already done. So he really just mentions it without going into detail.

The reason I brought it up is that I am writing a book about bushcraft here in Central Brazil, machete use is a big part of that and I do feature these mods in the book. Given Dave's name recognition due to his show, down the road I didn't want to be accused of copying his idea.

Variable grinds have been done on blades before, Lofty Wiseman mentions them on the Parang in the SAS survival guide. I started setting up my machetes this way from personal experience and lots of use in the field as opposed to being shown how to do this. I did come by the system I use the hard way, wrote about it in various forums long before making a video about it and I'm happy people find it useful.

I have no beef with Dave Canterbury over the issue anymore and I have told him so both on his video and via PM.

Mac

 

[abo4ster]

I don't care whose book you read, there is very little original input, it's mostly just rehashed information.

I will respectfully disagree. There are those out there who "dig deeper" so to speak into the origins of certain skills. Many of these can be found in the Bulletin of Primitive Technology of which many of the articles are compiled in the books Primitive Technology and Primitive Technology II by David Westcott.

I give a lot of kudos to Cody Lundin as the approach of both of his books take it to a different level in that they are both technical and philosophical in that you are learning how to learn. This is especially true in his second book. The McPhersons and Mors' books are heavily based on practical knowledge and obviously Larry Dean Olsen's book is an original. These are a few examples.

The books out there where the info is rehashed are more or less technical manuals. If this, do that... very military in its approach. I mean no disrespect in that statement, but you can see it the military training (technical) manuals being transposed into many books. Unfortunately for the military when it relates to survival, they get little survival training as they are learning/responsible for so many other important skills, thus they have to be very practical (technical) in the approach.

Going off on a tangent here... this makes me (anyway) lend more creditibility to those who have and continue to make a living in teaching survival/primitive skills (including military survival instructors) than those who are just military trained. Sounds like a good premise for a TV show... wait... there already is one.

 

[DOC-CANADA]

I will respectfully disagree. There are those out there who "dig deeper" so to speak into the origins of certain skills. Many of these can be found in the Bulletin of Primitive Technology of which many of the articles are compiled in the books Primitive Technology and Primitive Technology II by David Westcott.

I give a lot of kudos to Cody Lundin as the approach of both of his books take it to a different level in that they are both technical and philosophical in that you are learning how to learn. This is especially true in his second book. The McPhersons and Mors' books are heavily based on practical knowledge and obviously Larry Dean Olsen's book is an original. These are a few examples.

The books out there where the info is rehashed are more or less technical manuals. If this, do that... very military in its approach. I mean no disrespect in that statement, but you can see it the military training (technical) manuals being transposed into many books. Unfortunately for the military when it relates to survival, they get little survival training as they are learning/responsible for so many other important skills, thus they have to be very practical (technical) in the approach.

Going off on a tangent here... this makes me (anyway) lend more creditibility to those who have and continue to make a living in teaching survival/primitive skills (including military survival instructors) than those who are just military trained. Sounds like a good premise for a TV show... wait... there already is one.

I think what was meant is that in most books, there is little if any original content. I have read as many survival manuals as most, and more than a lot, and in my experience, this is the case.

I agree with your observations about books by John McPherson, Larry Dean Olsen, Mors, Cody Lundin and the contributors to BPT (in particular to me, articles by Dick Baugh). There are possibly a few more that I can't think of at the moment but compared to the number of wilderness survival/primitive skills books out there, they represent a drop in the bucket. I still continue to read them though, because finding 1 gem in a whole book is worth it.

BTW, you never did get back to me about the modified Promontory Peg.

Cheers!

Doc

 

[abo4ster]

BTW, you never did get back to me about the modified Promontory Peg.

Cheers!

Doc

I know, I am a slacker. I was even with George Michaud a while back and didn't even bring it up as we were tanning a fox.

Suggest we have a phone conversation. Will send you an email to start.