not sure if that's spelled right or not... that's how it's pronounced... i found out at work today that one of the older guys in the shop has been making his own knives since the mid 70's... he had bought a bunch of this stuff back then... he said it makes for an awesome knife blade... was wondering if anyone had heard of it??? he's going to give me some but if it's really a good steel then i'll hold off using it untill i get a couple other ones under my belt...