anyone NOT like the BM Axis lock?

WadeF said:
Did you watch my videos? I find it hard to believe you can close a liner lock or frame lock as quickly as an Axis. For starters you'd have to move your finger down to release the lock and then get it out of the way as you used another finger to push the blade closed. I've seen people do this pretty quick, but I don't see how it could be as fast as the Axis. However, closing a knife a fraction of the time slower or faster isn't that big of a deal as long as it can easily be closed with one hand. My point was with the Axis lock you don't have to get your fingers in the path of the blade and it takes less effort and skill to flip it closed.


Yup, there isn't much faster than the axis. I don't even think my MT UTII is faster, at least not to the naked eye. And like you say WadeF, you never get your fingers near the cutting edge.
 
WadeF said:
However, closing a knife a fraction of the time slower or faster isn't that big of a deal as long as it can easily be closed with one hand. My point was with the Axis lock you don't have to get your fingers in the path of the blade and it takes less effort and skill to flip it closed.

Right. I completely agree, and I wasn't debating that. That is one of the things I really like about the AXIS lock. I was bitten a few times and learned how to close rame locks and liners quickly and get my fingers out of the way. I'll never dispute the fact that the AXIS is a wonderful lock.

No, I didn't get to see your videos, maybe I should have a look :)... maybe it'll convince me to finally break down and buy a BM.

The only way I can see the AXIS failing is slipping on the handle while pulling back and up out of something you've stabbed it into.
 
ayzianboy said:
ok how is yours that sharp

mine will cut paper easy, but not in that smooth a straight line

Because I know how to put a scary sharp edge on my knives. :D

I can also throw a piece of paper in the air and slice it in half while it's in mid air with my BM710, and pretty much any other knife I have that I have put a good edge on. I'm sure many others here can do this as well.
 
ayzianboy said:
wanna share how

Any decent edge should be capable of cutting through fax/photocopy/ink jet paper. You could use a lanksy, sharpmaker, edgepro, free hand. There are plenty of topics here about sharpening so I'm not about to go into a sharpening lesson. It takes practice.
 
ayzianboy said:
my question is did you reprofile the blade angles or just sharpen it

Ah! It's reprofiled to 15 degrees per side with a 20 degree microbevel for the final edge. I finish it on the ultra fine stones for the Spyderco Sharpmaker and sometimes I strop it. This level of sharpness is more than you need to slice paper in half though.
 
are you doing the 15 degree reprofile on the sharpmaker? if so i would love to learn how ;)
 
ayzianboy said:
are you doing the 15 degree reprofile on the sharpmaker? if so i would love to learn how ;)

I used the EdgePro to reprofile, which some people will say is a waste of it's ability, but it does an accurate job of it. I then put the microbevel on with the Sharpmaker to make it easier to touch up, as I can just touch it up on the Sharpmaker rather than setting up the Edgepro.
 
ayzianboy said:
doh. edgepros are expensive :(

You can do the same thing with some sheets of sandpaper laid on a flat surface, like plate glass. It won't be as precise, but you can thin out the edge, and then put on a microbevel with a Sharpmaker.
 
Those Videos got me goin'! I was sold the second I saw it. So, I went out and bought a BM 530 Pardue. I guess it's the only one with concave axis lock buttons, and MAN did it hurt my thumb! I had to also press into my palm and use both my thumb and fore finger on the other side. It was a real pain, literally. So, I returned it.

I kept thinking about those videos and I really have always hated putting fingers in the path of the blade during closing ALL other knives. So, I didn't want to be put off by that one bad experience. I thought a larger blade with more weight behind it would "flippity flip" easier.

I just ordered TWO BM 806D2 AFCK AXIS knives. I got one for each hand, left pocket and right pocket, since they are so very ambidextrous. They will be here on Thursday, and I cannot wait. This PAIR of 806D2's will be my first BM's (I don't count the 530 as my first BM, since I had it less than 24 hrs, I never really owned it) BTW, that paper slice was impressive.

Hey, is the second knife in your video a BM 806D2 AFCK AXIS?
 
The only Axis lock I have is on my Sifu and it's worked fine but the Sifu is pretty much of a safe queen. Even though it works, I don't have the same confidence in it as my framelocks.
Another consideration I have is that it might be seen as a gravity knife in some areas and I'd just as soon avoid any legal problems.
 
Unless you own a Benchmade, you don't own an axis lock. There are a number of knock-offs, copies, and just plain similar designs, but only one 'axis' lock.
 
Um..er....I could be wrong but I beleive the REKAT guys (Sifu) invented the Axis lock.
In any event I'd still be a little concerned about it being considered a gravity knife. :)
 
godot said:
Um..er....I could be wrong but I beleive the REKAT guys (Sifu) invented the Axis lock.
In any event I'd still be a little concerned about it being considered a gravity knife. :)

It wasn't designed for this use and as far as I know Benchmade doesn't promote flicking it open. If you're worried, I just wouldn't flick it.
 
godot said:
Um..er....I could be wrong but I beleive the REKAT guys (Sifu) invented the Axis lock.

AXIS LOCK
A Benchmade exclusive, this patented AXIS™ locking mechanism is an ingenious marvel that has been touted by some as quite possibly "the strongest folding lock ever." It's the culmination of four years of "tinkering" by renowned custom knife makers Bill McHenry and Jason Williams.

http://www.benchmade.com/about_knives/locking_mechanisms.asp
 
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