Anyone see this knife review on Youtube?

interesting to say the least. i would have liked to seen him actually using it, and not just talking about it. also he said "if someone gave it to him he would take it". he didn't mention anything about the free replacement if broken. to each there own i guess.
 
Oh Well. Some good points and some I don't agree with. At least he was open and honest in an honorable fashion.
 
Seems like the review was over in the first two minutes. The rest of the video is him saying that he doesn't like the price tag. No one is going to argue that Busse knives are the cheapest but that isn't really their market.
 
So, the negatives he discussed were:

1) He couldn't justify the price.

OK. Fair price and value are subjective.

To me, the Busse knives I've bought have been worth the cost. To him, they aren't. We could both justify our positions, and we're both right for ourselves.

2) No sheath.

LOL – Busse knives used to come with sheaths, and most people complained. Busse stopped supplying sheaths, cut that out of the cost, and started recommending good sheathmakers – and many complain. It seems to be a can't-win situation for Busse.

In the video, he noted that the after market sheath cost $100, and then added that to the total cost, and he thought it was too much.

But, wait a minute, my sheaths for my large Busse knives cost about $1 each. There are good options, to fit your budget.

3) He didn't think The Busse Fusion Steel Heart was ideal for survival use, in terms of functionality.

He didn't really discuss that adequately, but he summed it up in his key points, at the end. For him to simply say "Due to size, limited function" ignores that many natives throughout the world regularly choose big knives to do those functions, and can do them very well with large knives.

It depends a lot on where you go, what you do, and what your skill level is with using your knife, among other factors. It's not really intrinsic.

The Fusion Steel Heart isn't ideal for me, either. I prefer other options, such as the NMSFNO. Some prefer big knives, some prefer little; some prefer straight handles, some prefer angled; and so on. However, I'm well aware that plenty of people prefer the fusion steel heart, and make great use of it.

I didn't find his review very compelling, but I think he did an OK job of reviewing how he felt about it.

The fact that he chooses to buy a Tom Brown Tracker (for $250 – and think he got a great deal) while rejecting buying a Busse FSH (for ~$400) is a pretty strong signifier that he and I are going to have irreconcilable points of view about knife purchase decisions.
 
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It was over in the first 5 seconds when he said it belonged to a friend of his... and in under 2 minutes he admits that his biggest "heartburn" is the price tag.... repeat... repeat... repeat... repeat... Sheath cost another $_______ expensive.... cost.... repeat.... price tag.... repeat... :barf:


"would I like to own this knife? Yes." So... to sum it up. He can't afford one. :rolleyes:

Ain't jealousy a biatch....
 
I don't think he was so negative about the knife as he was about the cost.

I have actually seen that guy review a handful of knives once in one of his videos and felt he did a fairly "objective" review. One of the knives failed badly on a knot and he just called it as he saw it. He of coarse said that knife that failed wasn't up to par.


But, 4 other knives priced around $75 - $125 or so handled very reasonable, yet plenty tough tasks.

So, from his perspective, he has USED a good handful of knives (that I know of - probably more) that handled reasonable, yet plenty tough chores. - All of those knives cost a small fraction of what the FSH and sheath cost.

So, I have seen him use other knives. I can't remember if he stated he actually used that Busse or not. But, considering his perspective and obvious inability to afford or justify the knife and having had acceptable experiences with other knives, did he have to use it to have issues with the price?

From his perspective, is he wrong to question the cost?


I don't agree with everything I saw on that video or this one. Everybody has different opinions.

But, honestly, from just having watched this video, it seemed to me he was actually starting off giving the FSH VERY high credit.... up until he started talking about the price, then he really seemed to get conflicted with himself.

He even stated: he would "LOVE to own the knife" and with enthusiasm. So, I think he really appreciated many aspects of the knife. But, he clearly had his own issues about the cost.

Not everybody can afford or justify $500 knives. I think that is VERY fair to understand and appreciate.

I have the exact full hight grind tan/sage FSH. I love it. I have owned many Busse knives in the past and unfortunately had to sell many of them because quite honestly, I couldn't afford to keep or justify keeping for what I own them for. I wanted to keep them, but I just couldn't. I had to use the money for other priorities.

Again, I just have to concede and appreciate that a LOT of people are going to have a hard time with a $400 knife that doesn't come with a sheath, then spend another $100 on a sheath to have $500 invested in a knife.

Many around here have just grown to accept it. And many around here can obviously afford to buy MANY $500+ knives. I wish I had more money myself - still working on it.

But, seriously, think about it. There are a LOT of good knives out there for $150 - $250.

$500 all in with a sheath is WAY high compared to MOST options even MANY custom options.

I have been discussing a gun purchase with a buddy of mine who isn't much into guns. He has a Winchester 30-30 and a POS Norinco that he is trying to sell to justify a "Nice" handgun. He is having a hard time getting $350 for his two guns and then he is VERY squimish about the extra $150 - $200 to get a STEAL of a deal on a Glock, XDm, M&P or CZ SP-01 that I have been trying to talk him into.

This is a guy that has a household income of close to $150k per year. But, thinks that extra $150 is just WAY hard to justify and still thinks he should be able to get a "NICE" gun for $350 - $450. - And that is for a GUN for home self-defense.

Imagine what MOST people think about a $500 knife!


Yes, they guy on the video does seem to have some experience with knives, but when talking about $500 for a knife, MOST people really are going to have to start questioning something about it. Sorry.

Does it mean we are wrong to pay $500 for a Busse? No, to each their own. Some women spend thousands on a purse or pair of shoes - seems to make the world go around somehow.

But, in all fairness, and in "Real" practical terms, we ARE paying an extra $250 - $350 for that extra 5% - 20% extra toughness that Busse offers and MOST of us will never even use or put to full abuse/test. Most of what we are paying for is peace of mind and something that is a bit "Symbolic" or maybe even status to some degree. Like a $2,000 purse, do 99% of us REALLY need a $500 knife. Think about it.

There are many things in life that people will NEVER agree on. Everything is "Relative" and "Perspective" varies from person to person.

I don't think we are wrong for appreciating what Busse has to offer.

But, I can't give someone a hard time for struggling with accepting the value or justifying the cost a $500 knife. So, I think I understand is personal conflict that seems apparent in the video.

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I know plenty of people that would never buy a Busse because of the cost. I don't hold it against them. :)

It is kind of like me going shopping for a Saleen S7 Twin Turbo. Yeah if someone gave it to me...:D

But, since I can't afford one I guess I will try to be practical about why I won't buy it. :D

Maybe the reviewer and I can hit the lotto and be happy already;):p:eek:

Anyhow, I didn't think the guy was out of line, just expressing his thoughts. You can't fault him for that. He sounded like he really liked the knife.
 
He probably also doesn't know about the guarantee behind the knife. That's worth at least a few extra bucks.
 
Other than complaining about the price and no sheath it was a positive review.
 
Other than complaining about the price and no sheath it was a positive review.

My take exactly. What I heard him saying was, "Man, I wish I could afford a knife like this."

Actually, that's a pretty compelling advertisement for Busse as being beyond the reach of all but those who demand only the very best, regardless of cost. And after all, if you ever face the prospect of staking your life on a blade, who would honestly demand less? Unfortunately, at that point, your only option is the blade in hand--and at that point he'd likely be saying, "Wish I'd bought a Busse."

Thought it was rather ironic that his slogan is "Equip 2 Endure", when endurance is the whole point of Busse, INFI, the Busse Warranty and all that goes into the incredibly complex, extensive and time-consuming process of turning this rare, superlative steel into the toughest, strongest blades on the planet. Endurance; both of the blade and of the person who was far-sighted enough to equip himself (or herself, right Amy & Robin?) with it.
 
Everything is relative, even if the perspective from which the buyer buys the knife varies.
The monthly income varies between individual.
The guy who make 150000 a month and the guy who make 15000 a month, they will have completely different point of view ABOUT 500$
Plus: I buy it because I use it.
I buy it because I will resell again.
I will buy it because I'm in collation think and one day I will sell all together and make the big BOX. Especially after the big boss is gone:foot:
 
I didn't think it was a bad review at all, it was pretty positive and honest. The only real negative aspect was the price, and honestly it's easy to see where its coming from. On the secondary market, prices are often "not worth it", but we still buy them. At direct from the factory prices, the price is often quite better. Worth it? Subjective.. To me, kind of... I still have a hard time paying the $$ mentally, but I enjoy the knives, use them and find them of superior quality compared to other knives. To other people, the knives cost WAY too much, even at factory direct prices. To each their own.

Could I get by with a cheaper knife? Sure, but life's too short to miss out on some luxury. I could also drive a used ford escort, carry a jennings .22, and live with my parents if I needed to, but I work so I don't have to, and I work so I can afford nicer things, like BC knives. They're certainly not for everyone, but I don't think they were ever intended to be.
 
My review of the review:

The reason why I said it was a negative review was because the majority of it was complaining, in one way or another, about the price of the knife, as well as his contradictory remarks on the knife itself.

Let me first expose his "functionality" contradictions:

He says, "As for the function test the Busse did phenomenal with chopping", "very well with the splitting", "drilling, it did decent", "really liked getting in here and carving with this knife". Then he says that it is a "combat blade" and a "jack-of-all-trades" knife. And I quote: "this knife can be used for fighting, this knife can be used for survival, this knife can be used for breaching", "prying", "combat applications" - yet at the end gives it's functionality a negative because it has "limited function". ??? You've got to be kidding right? Now, I know that he has "wilderness survival" in mind with regards to "the most effective and efficient tool". But knowing wilderness survival fairly well, especially "primitive survival" (which the Tom Brown Tracker Knife was made for), there isn't anything that you couldn't do with a FSH that you could do better with a Tom Brown Tracker (especially with lesser steel). The true "functionality" capabilities does not necessarily have to do with the knife, but in the USER of the knife and his abilities.

The "efficient" tool contradictions are his praise for the feel, grips, and usability of the knife. He praised the handling and grips of the FSH. An "efficient" knife for the user is one that fits his hand well, grips well, and is efficient for difficult tasks like chopping. Try chopping with a knife that doesn't feel well in the hand or uncomfortable grips and that becomes inefficient to the user energy wise. Yet he says it "isn't efficient".

He also gives it a "negative" "due to it's size" even though he didn't address "size" issues once in the whole of the video. If anything, his praise for its functions in chopping and splitting should be a positive remark for it's size, not a negative one.

In my opinion, you can't give a Busse knife a fair review unless you've lived with one for a while and really put it through the ringer. To spend a few hours with a borrowed FSH doing chopping and batoning just doesn't give the Busse a chance to shine over other knives the way that they do.

To me it was a extremely poor review because of his self-contradictions. He thinks that a FSH is a "combat" knife and is not a "survival" knife (even though he himself said it was a survival knife @ 2:06 in the video). ??? And because it "isn't the most effective and efficient tool that's available out there" ??? "Negative - Due to it's size and limited function" ????

He needs to either remake his video without his contradictions or remove it. Complaining about the price for over half the video and giving the Busse FSH a negative review on its functionality out of frustration that you can't afford one is not a good review.
 
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I would'nt lose any sleep over this guys opinion ... unless you have some evidence of use and indication of any problems by visibly seeing it ... reviews like this seem more opinionated than "valuable" ....

I encounter this last thought of mine a lot when reading reviews of guys either on guns or knives ... he has a good few knives on a table behind him ... if they are his then there is probably $400 worth ... for me I would rather have "one" good bit of kit than multiple middle of the road pieces ... the view of those who say "it's good but I would'nt spend the money" never stacks up for me when they have spent the same sum on other knives half the quality ... epecially when you won't be taking all those on the table with you when you are going to do something "meaningful" where you need a knife ...
 
I would never do a review on a knife I either didn't like or couldn't afford to own.

It wouldn't be very objective I don't think.
 
I watched a few other vids from him where he used the FSH along with the Tracker, 2 cold steel models, an RTAC and a KABAR. It seems that he generally prefers smaller knives than the FSH. If I'm reading his preferences right, something more like the SYKC Regulator would probably score higher with him. Different strokes for different folks and all that. I guess that if I were choosing one knife to take on the trail so to speak, I'd probably leave the FSH at home, myself. Not everyone likes to spend big bucks on knives, and if I hadn't been into collecting customs before getting into Busse knives, I might tend to agree, at least until I used one, LOL! He does seem to be pretty fair in his actual testing, but if he's having trouble throwing $250 on a WSK (Tom Brown Tracker), then it's no surprise that the FSH price makes him waffle & stutter a bit. :D
 
I can only agree with everyone here that he was negative about the initial monetary cost of the Busse knife. He failed to mention the Life Time warranty that Jerry offers to the owner/holder of the Busse Combat knives. Does any other knife maker offer such a warranty? I think not.

As per the sheath, I like the fact that Busse Combat knives to not come with a sheath. My reasoning is these knives are ment to be used. There are many different, and personal, configurations to carrying a knife, Why be limited to one carry function.

Additionally, he did not compare the Busse knife to any other knives of similar size and intented function of that knife. He also failed to mention the blade sharpness retention that INFI has. I could go on, but this is my 2 cents.
 
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