Anyone with experience with a stellite blade

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I have a large Kit Carson model 16 with a stellite blade and was wondering if anyone has experience with this material.I know it is very expensive blade material,$ 220.0 a pound from what i have.Specifically i would like to know the usual,edge holding,strength,and anything else that comes to mind for a folder.
TIA
 
I have a small Mod. 16 w/stellite & Carbon Fiber handle - absolutely love it!!! Stellite is used to make the turbine fan blades in the jets - it is very strong & holds an edge. It won't need sharpening very often & if it does normally just a couple of passes with a course ceramic or fine diamond stone will bring the edge back. A SEAL friend told me he took his Carson Stellite & won a bet with a fellow SEAL by hammering his blade into the spine of the other guy's knife which had a steel blade(made by a well-known custom maker who will remain unnamed). He put a good-sized notch in the spine of the other knife. His buddy wouldn't reverse the test( I wonder why? ). It will be less resistant to twisting & bending though - do not try to pry anything with it! Material is very tough to work with - eats grinding belts for lunch. Hope this helps!

PENGUIN
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Just to verify the story from penguin. I've seen the pictures. I have a stellite paring knife I got from Kit and have carried it and used it for over a year now. The normal box, fiberglass,shop rag, poly/hemp rope cutting I've just run it down a crock stick a couple of times. The thing I like about it the best is since it cann't rust I just have to clean it in the sink and can prepare food without protectant contamination. I usually carry it in a neck sheath.

Cheers,

I'm still trying to repalce the MD.-16 stellite I was talked into selling.

ts

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i have made a lot of knives from stellite... and it does hold an edge for a long time.. but i could never get the nice crisp edge i can with hard steels....and by the way... it is NOT used in jet engines.....no offense... but you are thinking of 154cm.....its primary industrial uses are in bearing applications and hard facing apps...like steam valve covers.....ask a welder...they are the only guys i ever run into who have ever heard of it...except well versed knife people....

[This message has been edited by tom mayo (edited 25 June 1999).]
 
Sorry about the misinformation on using Stellite for turbine blades - I had been told that by two different sources and had no reason to doubt the accuracy - I stand corrected. I know what you mean about the "crisp" edge but for a "user" that will cut all day & still shave hair off the arm I am not going to complain. I think with Stellite the skill of the person doing the grinding will be a more important factor than with many steels due to the difficulty in working with it. My 2 cents.
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Bill
 
The sharpness of the edge is an issue. Steel will take a finer edge, but on my Boye Cobalt (cast Stellite) folder, I can get a shaving edge on it (just barely). Another thing to keep in mind though, is that the steel knife will be sharper for the first 20 cuts, the stellite knife will be just as sharp for the next 20 cuts, and the stellite knife will be sharper for the last 50 cuts. Something to think about if you ever so a lot of work without a sharpener handy.

One thing that surprised me about the Boye Cobalt folder is how easy the edge comes up during sharpening. I expected it to be a chore, as with CPM 4X0V, but it sharpens more like 440C.

Harv
 
well...maybe i am the one who knows nothing, wont be the first time for sure.....to me.. a knifemaker.....a knife that shaves is barely sharp....im one of those guys who takes his knife to the hard felt wheel with green chrome rouge on it EVERY time i use it.. i want my knife to split hairs..all the time.....if it doesnt...im not happy...guy came over with a new chris reeves folder today....i asked permission...and he was SO impressed when i got done....that is one of the reasons i was never super stoked with stellite and i love the particle metallurgy by crucible so much....just a personal preference....i have a bunch of people out there using stellite knives and swearing by the stuff.....and it doesnt rust....that is such a big plus that many people dont realize how important a feature that is...
 
Many Steam turbine blades are made of stellite. Inconel also..
Dozer blades are hardcoated with it,chipper blades , Submarine pump sleeves are made of monel k500 age hardened then an overlay of stellite aplied to run the packing for salt water service.
Talonite makes a real nice knife blade.

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