Anything similar to the Kifaru MMR for less money?

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I'm looking for a backpack similar to the Kifaru MMR ( http://www.kifaru.net/MGmmr.htm ), but at a cost that is more accessible. The intended use would be backpacking throughout North America and Europe. Let me know what you recommend. Thank you.
 
I have a Kifaru EMR, Zulu, and an E&E. They are worth every penny.
You just need a lot of pennys;)
 
I would agree that they are probably among the best and toughest packs made, but if you don't have the money for the best, it would be nice to have an alternative that is somewhat comparable. Any suggestions?
 
As far as durability and warranty, there isn't any pack I've found that compares to Kifaru. I think you can find many packs with the same spacial designs though, and REI comes to mind for decent and durable backpacks at a good price. I've bought REI packs for my kids to use in school and the outdoors, and they take a beating pretty well.
 
I would have a look at the Karrimor SF line - the Sabre 60-100 and Sabre 75 are tough, tough packs. I nearly went with the MMR but ended up nabbing a Sabre on sale. Money wasn't a concern - I could easily have bought the MMR or EMR and topped it off with plenty of accessories. But I don't really need the MOLLE stuff all over it, and in the end I didn't think I needed something as big as the EMR, but I didn't really like the way the MMR sat.

Kifaru make awesome gear. But there are a number of other companies which make tough gear. Check out McHale as well, and Arc'teryx. Gregory make excellent packs as well.

Now I have to say I've never been to Europe, but frankly these days I would be a little hesitant going to lots of parts of it with a MOLLE-covered Kifaru. I hope nobody takes offence as I am not saying this is right or wrong, but Americans and in particular people who might be mistaken for US military personnel might be potential targets for attacks, crime, or even just general unhelpfulness.

I strongly recommend the Karrimor Sabres, anyway.
 
How about this low cost pack from LLbean. Based upon their Backpacker magazine award winning Bigelow pack.

Waterproof quiet polyester, removable fanny, hydration compatible - all for 120 bucks.

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I think the best packs are Kifaru, Arcteryx and Mystery Ranch (Dana Gleason). I have a Kifaru Siwash. It's fantastic. Also, take a look at Mystery Ranch.

Pete
 
I found a great deal on an Arc'Teryx Tango pack...similar in size to the MMR (4000 vs. 4200 cu) and with the right side-release buckles (I have some from ITW Nexus) that can be "slipped on", they will doc-n-loc my Kifaru pouches. You won't find too many packs with the same level of quality that provide the same level of functionality without hurting the pocket book (the Tango is only about $100 less than the MMR). My advice is to get a surplus ALICE ruck and start saving the Kifaru pennies. After using an ALICE for a few years, the Kifaru will be a true dream to carry.

ROCK6
 
+1 on Arc'Teryx. My next purchase is going to be one of the Arc'Teryx Naos packs, but I think they retail for even more than the Kifarus. The Naoses are waterproof, light, and super durable. I have a Gregory Forrester now, but I want something that can handle the wet conditions I am always in a little better. The Gregory is great as far as durability goes though. I have used it on many trips and it still looks basically brand new.

For durability, just take care of your pack and you can use pretty much anything. I mean, people hike the Appalachian trail with ultralight packs all the time, and their packs don't fall apart and are in good condition when they are done.
 
The founder of Kifaru was also affiliated with MountainSmith. You might check to see if they have something you like.

Rick
 
I have a Kelty Coyote and it does the trick. Not the most comfortable pack on the hips for me, but the rest of the features are good. If I could do it over, I'd look harder at the Osprey Aether and get it custom molded to my hips for a comfier fit. The Kifaru stuff looks awesome, but really heavy, expensive, and I would never use all that webbing strapped to the sides.
 
Vaude makes some great packs and you would blend in a bit more in Europe. Mystery Ranch was started after the owner sold Dana line to K2 and they make bombproof packs. Eagle Creek is good if you want a travel pack vs. a wilderness pack. Other than that, a trip to REI or other large retailer will get you in touch with a bunch of packs. Nothing beats trying them on with a load to bring out the good and bad. It's just like buying a pair of shoes.
 
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