Apache Fighting Bowie

Discussion in 'Koster Knives' started by Daniel Koster, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. Daniel Koster

    Daniel Koster www.kosterknives.com Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 18, 2001
    Whether the word "Apache" makes you think of this:

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    or this:

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    ...you are correct.

    This new design I'm working on is meant to be an outdoorsman's fighting knife.

    I designed it from the beginning to fit in the larger 8" Spec-Ops Combat Master sheath:
    http://www.specopsbrand.com/combat-master-knife-sheath-long.html


    Here's what I've got so far:

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    7.9" blade, 13.75" overall

    Scandi grind at the tip, 45 deg swedge on top, flat grind everywhere else. Pommel strike. Integral guard. Finger cut-out for detail work.

    Made from the same 3V as the MUCK.

    Let me know your thoughts - and I'll try and post anything I've forgotten to add. :D

    Dan
    KosterKnives.com
     
  2. Daniel Koster

    Daniel Koster www.kosterknives.com Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 18, 2001
    I put in a shallow blood groove for weight-savings, and the tang will be skeletonized like the MUCK and BushMaster.

    2 corby pins and a lanyard tube on the pommel.

    Dan
     
  3. Maqua

    Maqua

    Jan 21, 2005
    I like it so far...
     
  4. wildmike

    wildmike

    Nov 17, 2007
    I can't stand those tanto points. I think it would be better with a standard grind. Add a sharpened or sharpenable back clip.
     
  5. Daniel Koster

    Daniel Koster www.kosterknives.com Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 18, 2001
    I've made this knife so that a sharpenable back clip could be added on request.

    The front tanto is a true Scandi-grind....like my bushcraft knife. Think of this as a wharncliffe blade that you can also use the tip for chisel-work. ;)

    Dan
     
  6. frc505

    frc505

    686
    Jun 12, 2010
    Daniel,

    In your opinion how would that tanto tip fare
    Against soft body armor ? As well as heavy/
    Winter clothing ? ... Imo since it is designed
    To be a fighter it should be able to have good
    Penetration to hit the vitals ! What are your
    Thoughts on this ?

    Frank
     
  7. Daniel Koster

    Daniel Koster www.kosterknives.com Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 18, 2001
    Here are a few thoughts - all are welcome to add opinions, etc. I'm not an expert fighter...nor do I play one on TV. :D :p


    Most Tanto-style tips I've seen are usually a full flat grind, or a hollow grind backing up a thick flat grind. They have their uses and purposes. But for me I was wanting something a little more useful and practical. The tip should be plenty strong for penetrating a variety of materials. It will be quite thick. The scandi grind should be able to take a good amount of abuse.

    I'm very interested in having this go through a passaround. I will probably make a prototype out of 3V that is 0.278" thick. We can test the scandi grind and if it doesn't hold up then I can grind a steeper micro bevel on it.

    I'm open to input and helpful suggestions. I do want it to be quite tough, yet not so heavy that it drags your pants down when you belt-carry it.

    Dan
     
  8. Thomas Linton

    Thomas Linton

    Jun 16, 2003
    Little Hawk, a Brule Sioux Warrior 1907

    How about a half guard??? Tanto's had more than that. If you are going to dynamically test it without a guard, think Kevlar gloves.
     
  9. Skrapmetal

    Skrapmetal

    Jul 13, 2009
    I don't think I'd want the choil. Maybe a little more drop at the index-finger area of the handle to give it a little more of a guard.
     
  10. Skrapmetal

    Skrapmetal

    Jul 13, 2009
    I was bored, so I played around in Paint a little. This is what I was getting at. Maybe a longer blade, but I just did a little crop and move around with what you had.

    ApacheFighter3_zpsb40ce720.jpg
     
  11. arislan

    arislan

    38
    Apr 26, 2011
    Tanto is nice.. but if yer gonna call it a bowie, why not make a real bowie.. one in 3V would kick ass.
     
  12. Faiaoga

    Faiaoga

    945
    Jul 3, 2012
    Is there not the "apache" that is the French street tough with a beret, striped shirt, Galoise cigarettes an a flick knife?:D
     
  13. pap11y

    pap11y

    Jul 4, 2012
    I like it...
     
  14. Longtrang

    Longtrang

    Jan 21, 2010
    I like it. Looks pretty functional as a fighting knife.
     
  15. ExplorerIII

    ExplorerIII

    8
    Sep 19, 2012
    This seems very interesting. I look forward to this project maturing. It would be a great "bad brother" to the MUCK I have on order.
     
  16. gottahaveit27

    gottahaveit27

    Aug 31, 2008
    +1 on the bowie idea. The pictured knife is nice but not exactly my style. I would love a larger version of the EDC knife though. A true bowie around 7" with a nice wide blade maybe 1 1/2" from spine to edge. Dan could make this knife absolutely stunning. It would be an instant classic.
     
  17. Daniel Koster

    Daniel Koster www.kosterknives.com Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 18, 2001
    Thanks for the comments and suggestions, guys. I do appreciate feedback.

    Hey - have you been looking over my shoulder?!?

    :eek:

    Dan
     
  18. gottahaveit27

    gottahaveit27

    Aug 31, 2008
    OK, now I'm excited! :D
     
  19. superfluities

    superfluities Moderator Moderator

    337
    Jun 29, 2008
    would rather have pomel strike and lanyard hole(tube) on center with corby pins...so the pommell strike would be spear tip shaped instead of tanto tip shape.
    +anything extra you can do to lighten it up!
     
  20. arislan

    arislan

    38
    Apr 26, 2011
    :D ooo, please show us the shiny... a koster classic bowie would be wicked indeed..
     

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