Are butterflies worth a dern?

... a Typhoon Kit would be a good choice.

Ditto for that... I've one and is a hell of a knife... the best Blade to Handle ratio in any knife I've had... big blade , properly heat treated, and easy to assembly/disassembly...

Plus, you can personalize to your own design, both with inserts or drilled holes .

Get one, you will never regreat it...
 
A well-made butterfly knife (also known as a balisong knife) is the strongest folding knife you can get. The force is distributed to three co-equal load-bearing pins. Keep in mind that in the fleamarket cheapies, what I refer to as the Charming Chineese Cheapies, CCCs for short, those pins are probably made of hollow, soft, aluminum and are set into blow-molded Zamak; even the strongest design is rendered weak if it's made poorly and of poor materials.

The balisong lock mechanism is very binary meaning that it is either locked or not; there's no half-way state. A liner lock, for example -- especially if it's poorly made or even if there's some dirt in it -- can get into a sort of half-way state where the lock portion of the liner moves into position enough to make the blade feel locked, but it is only partially-locked and will collapse under pressure. The danger here is that most people don't look at their liner lock each time they use it to make sure that it locked all the way; if they hear the click and the blade feels secure to finger pressure, they assume it locked fully and is good-to-go. Most -- not all -- other locking mechanism designs have similar partially-locked states that they can get into.

Another major advantage of the balisong design, IMHO, is that it's very simple and very open, very inspectable. You can see the whole lock mechanism and you can inspect it without disassembling the knife. Contrast this with, for example, Benchmade's Axis lock. The Axis lock has two springs in it that both contribute to locking it. There have been cases reported wherein people have disassembled their Axis lock knife and been surprised to find one of the two springs broken. That lock mechanism was half-broken and yet you couldn't tell from outside of the knife because that part of the mechanism is hidden. Since most people don't want to disassemble their knives frequently, it's nice to have a lock mechanism where everything, every part, is observable from outside the knife.

The last nice thing about the balisong lock mechanism is that it doesn't use a spring of any sort. All spring parts will eventually fatigue. And making spring parts is a more complicated and demanding process which means greater defect opportunities.


perfectly right.
the balisong is not just a *cool* knife,a well made one like the bm's is indeed the strongest folding knife type available
 
My two sense is that if you ever need to deploy the knife fast, like real fast a butterfly might get you killed. Imagine your hands are pinned from behind and you can pull a wave knife or auto out of your pocket and shred one of two the the assailants arms versus trying to manipulate a butterfly. They are strong knives but when you add in extra steps for deployment, well that can be dangerous.
 
My two sense is that if you ever need to deploy the knife fast, like real fast a butterfly might get you killed. Imagine your hands are pinned from behind and you can pull a wave knife or auto out of your pocket and shred one of two the the assailants arms versus trying to manipulate a butterfly. They are strong knives but when you add in extra steps for deployment, well that can be dangerous.

Wait-- I'm sorry-- how exactly do you pull a knife out of your pocket if your hands are pinned from behind? I guess you are saying that a balisong would be difficult to deploy in a stressful situation. It must come with practice, but when I grab my balisong out of my pocket, hey-- it's open. By the way, your whole post is retarded. Also-- who was talking about self defense on this thread?
 
Butterflys are fun. They are also slower to deploy then a standard folder. It burns me that a knife that is actually slower to deploy is illegal in California, a felony no less, because some legislator saw a movie in the 60's and decided to score political points.

Maybe with modern locks its not such a big deal, but the butterfly design is an excellent working knife, and was used as such for many years, because it won't close on your fingers unless you shear right through the pins.
 
BALISONGS RULE!!

not only are they VERY strong (just a bit weaker than fixed knife)

but you can do AMAZING tricks with it, I mean,

WHY WOULDNT U WANT A KNIFE THAT IS STRONG (more so than folders) AND THAT YOU CAN SHOW OFF AND PLAY WITH???

=D
 
I used to have one that was marketed as a fishing knife.
I think they area bit unusual and attract a loyal fan base that are slightly "different"

Nothing better than watching the movies on youtube of all the"moves"
I rarely fail to at least smile or crack up looking at the characters doing the moves or their facial expressions, body language.
It reminds move of something I can not quite place.
 
Ask yourself if you are otherwise occupied when the knife needs to be deployed if you want to start twirling your balisong. Maybe you are on ice, on steps, pushing someone off you, running, etc. What if you have arms pinned. The regular lockbacks are faster to deploy and are sturdy enough. The Cold Steel company makes a faster and easier to deploy balisong type knife that locks up just as well.
 
Ask yourself if you are otherwise occupied when the knife needs to be deployed if you want to start twirling your balisong. Maybe you are on ice, on steps, pushing someone off you, running, etc. What if you have arms pinned. The regular lockbacks are faster to deploy and are sturdy enough. The Cold Steel company makes a faster and easier to deploy balisong type knife that locks up just as well.

Are you talking about the triple action with aluminium handles that are almost as thin as the foil I wrap my lunch in? I agree with your first comment though...better things to have on you if you have to draw under pressure.
 
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