Are linerlocks really unsafe?

depends on what you consider safe and how you use your knifes. if your scared, go with a fixed blade. If you want a strong lock, take a look at any of the cold steel TRI-AD lock. http://www.coldsteel.com/triadlock1.html

Show me another lock which can handle over 600lbs of free hanging/swinging weight if you think its crap!

I don't know about the COMPARATIVE strength of the Triad lock, but agree with you on this point: they are strong and interesting for that reason.

I had been wanting to have a 4" beater folder to my collection, something that may not be the 'sharpest knife in the drawer', but is a good all-around work knife that has a strong lock. I got the new Cold Steel Recon spear point, really looking forward to try out that Triad lock and see how it holds up.
 
I don't place much importance in how fast I can close my knife as much as I do how safely I can close it with one hand. Speed of opening on the other hand could be very handy in emergency situations. A flipper to me as as fast or faster than an axis lock or similar locking mechanism to deploy.
 
I don't know about the COMPARATIVE strength of the Triad lock, but agree with you on this point: they are strong and interesting for that reason.

I had been wanting to have a 4" beater folder to my collection, something that may not be the 'sharpest knife in the drawer', but is a good all-around work knife that has a strong lock. I got the new Cold Steel Recon spear point, really looking forward to try out that Triad lock and see how it holds up.

Is the recon 1 spearpoint out?

Edit: Yeh, I guess they are. I'm seeing them on ebay. Getting one too.
 
Linerlocks are okay, like I said before I have had them fail on me. That being said I have seen a few really beefy and good liner locks that I would put all my trust in using hard. (ZT 0200, Ontario Rat 1, Blackhawk hornet, 5.11 First Responder etc.)

But if you really want something simple and ultra reliable just go for a regular ol' framelock.
 
Good linerlocks are utterly safe and dependable. Poor ones, and there are many out there, are a continuing invitation to the emergency room with an injury that may never completely heal (e.g., nerve damage). Buy good knives and use them sensibly. :thumbup:
 
the only liner lock from a reputable manufacturer that I have ever had fail was a Kershaw Black Out. The edge of the lock peened and the blade would slip off and close.
 
I don´t like liner locks. It´s not that they are unsafe ( in fact none of my knife closed accidentally), it´s because your fingers can come between the blade and the handle when closing the knife. Not very pleasant when you just finished sharpning your knife :grumpy:.

Kind regards,

Andre


this mixed with my carelessness caused me to almost cut off my finger tip yesterday. I certainly re-learned a lesson about the danger zone.
 
As long as it is a well made liner lock, you should have any problems when used in the parameters of a folding knife. They are not the strongest lock on the market, but they have their benefits and they are tough enough.

Just don't cheap out when getting a liner lock knife. Your index finger is worth the extra $ spent.
 
I have tried several Liner Lock knives over the years and I hate them all. Maybe it is my big "canned Ham" hands but they seem to disengage the lock nearly every time I attempt to use a Liner Lock. The Lockback is simply the best locking system ever created. All other systems are only cheap attempts to dethrone the king. Use a Liner Lock at your own peril.
 
Disengaging the lock is really hard to do if the knife is made right. Simply have the lock below your liners, and it shouldn't disengage. As for opening speed, I think back lock, compression, and liner are all around the same. The lock snaps in by itself. Closing speed, I don't care, but I'm fastest with a linerlock. I know it's dangerous in the sense your hands have to go in front of the blade, but I've been using liners exclusively until I got my Spyderco Endura. Flip the knife back, so it's spine down, with your index finger on the spine, and thumb and third on opposite sides of the liner. Now, use your thumb to push the lock, and then use your index to slightly push the knife up. Move your thumb back, and snap it closed with your index. Disengage and push slightly, move your thumb, and finish closing. It's almost one move for me now. If you're a lefty, or using your other hand, simply pull with your thumb instead. I can do it using either hand by itself. As for accidentally disengaging, it depends on the quality, doesn't it? Sure, the liner lock probably is the weakest, but it's still strong enough. By the time we reach the forces needed for a liner lock to disengage, you probably would have let go of the knife. So maybe we should start working out our wrists.
 
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