Are my cheap knives the problem with my throwing?

[JimRockford]

S strick284

My knives tend to spiral when I throw them, sort of like a football, or the way a rifle spins a bullet.

I realize this is an old thread, but did you ever discover what was causing your knives to spiral in flight?

Thanks.

 

[DocJD]

S strick284



I realize this is an old thread, but did you ever discover what was causing your knives to spiral in flight?

Thanks.

The knife pictured in OP is bad for throwing, IMO .

The wrapping cord and trailing knot can easily prevent a clean release .

I've had many problems trying to throw my carry knives with lanyards .

Anything that can catch or drag when you release can impart uneven vectors and even be dangerous .

 

[Ote]

Almost always the "issue" is "operator error"... inversion (hitting spine down, while throwing spine up) is normal although not understood. My no spin is typically inside an 8 ft distance.. (I'm 6'4" with long arms) any further than that and rotation occurs (again, operator error).. it has to do with the release (when and where in the throw) of the blade. I tend to throw from the shoulder and not the elbow (baseball style).. upon release you should have a straight line from your elbow to the tip of the blade, any "flat" hits are usually wrist issues.. if your off at all the blade will plane sideways. the blade should slip from your hand, I have found a straight arm (no bend in the elbow) improves the no spin technique and practice, practice, practice. And loose the wrap/tail (introduces variables) Good luck, watch the ricochets.

 

[JimRockford]

Thanks for the insight. That sounds like what I'm finding as well. When I was younger, it wasn't seen often. After some tendonitis in the shoulder it seems to rifle/spiral at times. Like you, I'm about 6'3" and long arms. My no spin is also mostly inside the 10' marker. Even on the high speed camera at 240 fps I can't catch where it's happening, but I feel like you're correct. If I used stinger type knives maybe it would be different, but since I was originally trained for tactical, not competition, I don't throw anything I wouldn't carry. As a friends of mine likes to say, if you wouldn't carry it to kill a zombie, don't bother using it for throwing practice. :>)

Thanks again, gentlemen.

 

[NG VI]

I think my medium SpyderThrowers are about ten ounces, the super light weight of yours is definitely not helping you, also the blade profile looks really harsh for throwing

 

[Eric avitia]

Hi guys. I'm not new to the forum, but I'm mostly a reader, not a poster. But I thought I'd ask a question here and see if anyone can help me out. I have been throwing for a few months, and I have a decent spin throw, but I can't seem to get any kind of no-spin technique working. I have seen Ralph Thorn's DVD, and have tried to use his method, but its not working for me. My knives tend to spiral when I throw them, sort of like a football, or the way a rifle spins a bullet. They also sometimes turn horizontally to the right, and hit the target flat. If I get in really close (around 6 feet or so) and throw hard, I can get sticks in the target, but a lot of them stick in the target upside down. By upside down I mean that the knife spirals (spins on its axis) 180 degrees before it gets to the target. I feel like it's a problem with my release. Could it have anything to do with the knives I'm using?

They're super cheap. I got 10 of them on ebay for $30. I don't know who makes them, what they're made out of, or what the model is called. Some Chinese manufactured junk I'm sure. They have guards and the handles are really thin. They came wrapped with some cheap nylon string but I just cut it off because the little tail of it was getting in the way. The balance point is right on the guard. I don't know if they're too thin to hold them right for a good release, or if the guards are getting in the way of a good grip, or the little swells on the corner of the butt are messing up my release, but I feel like these things might be interfering with my throwing. I ground the top guard off one, but that didn't seem to help much. I was going to post pictures, but I am not permitted to post attachments for some reason.

Here is a picture so you have an idea what I am talking about.

-strick

FIRST OFF. PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT. . FINGER PLACEMENT. ..IS A KEY. IN NO SPIN
THIERS SO MANY. TEQNIQUES
ROTATIONAL. 1..2..3. SPINS. DISTANCE @10to -15 FT for begining ajust grip throwing as u see . ( seperate topic )
..2ND ILL FIRST TELL U. DO NOT BUY ANYTHING CHEAP THIN OR SHORT. TYPICALLY 3/16 9" min 15 " for most throwing. KNIVES "..1075....1055...1095..are the common spring steels. Thier tough. I MAKE MY OWN.
HEAT TREAT ANEAL ETC ..EVEN MY⁹ HOME DEPOT. METAL ( welding 3/8. Tough as hell un treated THROWNG FOR 3 yrs.
Fileing tip is A GIVEN .
TARGETS ..LOG ROUNDS. or end grain . AS FOR NO SPIN DIFFERENT KNIVES FOR DIFFERANT TEQNIQUES.. FINGER PLACEMENT ETC
TEAR DROP STYLE ARE COMMON. ( ACE JET. for example. .) Prices vary
PICK ONE OR THE OTHER. ROTATIONAL OR NO SPIN. DONT MIX BOTH. TILL U PERFECT. ONE. . ( MY OPINION) and a few others. WATCH AS MANY TUTORIALS CHOOSE YOURS TO YOUR UNDERSTANDING.
...THROWING KNIVES....**
FOR BEGINING. GIL HIBBENS ARE GOOD. BOKER.ZEELS... SURE FLIGHT.....GRIFFANS....BULLSEYE BLADES
NOTHING UNDER 9 INCHES. CHOOSE YOUR STYLE. MILITARY HALF( BLADE THROW......ROTATIONAL. NO SPIN...ETC.
PRACTICE PRACTICE. SOMETIMES 6 " backwrd. Or forward. Makes the differ...
Grip. FINGER pacement throwing hard .early/ late release. Etc. .GOOD LUCK ILL HAVE MY OWN TOPIC. SHORTLY. All comments. Too btw. Good points

He's..right.

used..your..finger..control..your..knife.
The..knife..slipped..from..your..fore..finger.Bye.

 

[Eric avitia]

FIRST OFF. PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT. . FINGER PLACEMENT. ..IS A KEY. IN NO SPIN
THIERS SO MANY. TEQNIQUES
ROTATIONAL. 1..2..3. SPINS. DISTANCE @10to -15 FT for begining ajust grip throwing as u see . ( seperate topic )
..2ND ILL FIRST TELL U. DO NOT BUY ANYTHING CHEAP THIN OR SHORT. TYPICALLY 3/16 9" min 15 " for most throwing. KNIVES "..1075....1055...1095..are the common spring steels. Thier tough. I MAKE MY OWN.
HEAT TREAT ANEAL ETC ..EVEN MY⁹ HOME DEPOT. METAL ( welding 3/8. Tough as hell un treated THROWNG FOR 3 yrs.
Fileing tip is A GIVEN .
TARGETS ..LOG ROUNDS. or end grain . AS FOR NO SPIN DIFFERENT KNIVES FOR DIFFERANT TEQNIQUES.. FINGER PLACEMENT ETC
TEAR DROP STYLE ARE COMMON. ( ACE JET. for example. .) Prices vary
PICK ONE OR THE OTHER. ROTATIONAL OR NO SPIN. DONT MIX BOTH. TILL U PERFECT. ONE. . ( MY OPINION) and a few others. WATCH AS MANY TUTORIALS CHOOSE YOURS TO YOUR UNDERSTANDING.
...THROWING KNIVES....**
FOR BEGINING. GIL HIBBENS ARE GOOD. BOKER.ZEELS... SURE FLIGHT.....GRIFFANS....BULLSEYE BLADES
NOTHING UNDER 9 INCHES. CHOOSE YOUR STYLE. MILITARY HALF( BLADE THROW......ROTATIONAL. NO SPIN...ETC.
PRACTICE PRACTICE. SOMETIMES 6 " backwrd. Or forward. Makes the differ...
Grip. FINGER pacement throwing hard .early/ late release. Etc. .GOOD LUCK ILL HAVE MY OWN TOPIC. SHORTLY. All comments. Too btw. Good points

 

[EnderK]

Hi guys. I'm not new to the forum, but I'm mostly a reader, not a poster. But I thought I'd ask a question here and see if anyone can help me out. I have been throwing for a few months, and I have a decent spin throw, but I can't seem to get any kind of no-spin technique working. I have seen Ralph Thorn's DVD, and have tried to use his method, but its not working for me. My knives tend to spiral when I throw them, sort of like a football, or the way a rifle spins a bullet. They also sometimes turn horizontally to the right, and hit the target flat. If I get in really close (around 6 feet or so) and throw hard, I can get sticks in the target, but a lot of them stick in the target upside down. By upside down I mean that the knife spirals (spins on its axis) 180 degrees before it gets to the target. I feel like it's a problem with my release. Could it have anything to do with the knives I'm using?

They're super cheap. I got 10 of them on ebay for $30. I don't know who makes them, what they're made out of, or what the model is called. Some Chinese manufactured junk I'm sure. They have guards and the handles are really thin. They came wrapped with some cheap nylon string but I just cut it off because the little tail of it was getting in the way. The balance point is right on the guard. I don't know if they're too thin to hold them right for a good release, or if the guards are getting in the way of a good grip, or the little swells on the corner of the butt are messing up my release, but I feel like these things might be interfering with my throwing. I ground the top guard off one, but that didn't seem to help much. I was going to post pictures, but I am not permitted to post attachments for some reason.

Here is a picture so you have an idea what I am talking about.

-strick

Ka-Bar makes my favorite no spin throwers.https://www.knifecenter.com/item/KA1121/ka-bar-1121-thrower-knife-3-piece-set-black-coated-3cr13-stainless-steel-polyester-sheath. The steal is soft so it does not break and the shape of the blade makes it strong against bending its a perfect combination. I’ve thrown these thousands of times against hardwoods and they hold up fantastically
Hi guys. I'm not new to the forum, but I'm mostly a reader, not a poster. But I thought I'd ask a question here and see if anyone can help me out. I have been throwing for a few months, and I have a decent spin throw, but I can't seem to get any kind of no-spin technique working. I have seen Ralph Thorn's DVD, and have tried to use his method, but it’s not working for me. My knives tend to spiral when I throw them, sort of like a football, or the way a rifle spins a bullet. They also sometimes turn horizontally to the right, and hit the target flat. If I get in really close (around 6 feet or so) and throw hard, I can get sticks in the target, but a lot of them stick in the target upside down. By upside down I mean that the knife spirals (spins on its axis) 180 degrees before it gets to the target. I feel like it's a problem with my release. Could it have anything to do with the knives I'm using?

They're super cheap. I got 10 of them on ebay for $30. I don't know who makes them, what they're made out of, or what the model is called. Some Chinese manufactured junk I'm sure. They have guards and the handles are really thin. They came wrapped with some cheap nylon string but I just cut it off because the little tail of it was getting in the way. The balance point is right on the guard. I don't know if they're too thin to hold them right for a good release, or if the guards are getting in the way of a good grip, or the little swells on the corner of the butt are messing up my release, but I feel like these things might be interfering with my throwing. I ground the top guard off one, but that didn't seem to help much. I was going to post pictures, but I am not permitted to post attachments for some reason.

Here is a picture so you have an idea what I am talking about.

-strick

 

[EnderK]

Ka-Bar makes my favorite no spin throwers.https://www.knifecenter.com/item/KA1121/ka-bar-1121-thrower-knife-3-piece-set-black-coated-3cr13-stainless-steel-polyester-sheath. The steal is soft so it does not break and the shape of the blade makes it strong against bending its a perfect combination. I’ve thrown these thousands of times against hardwoods and they hold up fantastically