Are partially serrated blades really all that bad?

marthinus said:
Good luck with a sprint run. Thoso rods are as rare as chicken teeth and though there was a big margin asking for them it does not look like its gonna happen. BUT WE SHOULD STILL KEEP ON HOPING
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I wonder why not? I mean, exact same profile as the serrations? That's genius! Well, it is Sal & Co. after all. :)
 
Over the years i've learned how to sharpen a plain blade however i want it, i mainly use a medium grit diamond sharpener for a nasty, serrated type edge.

Serrations i cannot stand, they have their purpose if you absolutely need them though.
 
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Good luck with a sprint run. Thoso rods are as rare as chicken teeth and though there was a big margin asking for them it does not look like its gonna happen. BUT WE SHOULD STILL KEEP ON HOPING

Josh K said:
I wonder why not? I mean, exact same profile as the serrations? That's genius! Well, it is Sal & Co. after all. :)
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How about several reasons: Even though they do a better job, they were sold at a lower cost than the Profiler or the Tri angle sharpener. Which I also have but there is no comparison in the job they do.
 
Hawkings said:
Well that is not exactly true, plain edges only emerged very recently, when man became able to make knives out of metal.
Before that, most blades were made mostly out of stone and indeed very much serrated. :)
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Have you ever used a stone blade? The serrations are actually very smooth, almost like a plain edge. They are serrated, but they do not tear from my experiences. And I've seen people actually knap plain edge blades out of stone (They are wicked sharp, too. Like nothing you've ever seen...).

I actually have a flint arrow head in my room, it does in fact have a serrated looking edge, but they are incredibly smooth and cut extremely well without tearing up whatever material you are cutting( Granted, I haven't used every kind of serrated knife out there, but with my experiences, serrations aren't all that good... for me, that is. ).
 
does anyone have a photo of a knife with serrations which have been reprofiled to make a smooth edge?
 
I think SE's make good emergency utility edges and "rescue" type knives but for everything else I like a PE because they're so easy to get really sharp.
 
I am an all or none guy too.

However I do like the setup on the combo edge Para's from Spyderco.

They have almost full serration with a 1/2" plain edge at the tip.

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To each there own I guess. Serrations, in my opinion, are not a fashion trend nor do they make the user a Ninja. They can be extremely useful in certain situations. Nothing will cut a lariat, and avoid getting into a wreck faster, than a sharp serrated/combo blade. They are not for everyone, which explains why we as purchasers have so many options - not everyone needs the same thing. I read this forum regularly, and am always amazed at the negative/condecending attitude some have towards what doesn't work for them (style, manufacturer etc...). Having an opinion is great (the more the better), and there are many posters on here who are well spoken and respectful. That is why we are here, to exchange ideas and to listen and learn more about knives and the people who use them. The same for CONSTRUCTIVE critisism, but putting down something, usually with some kind of snide remark, because it isn't your cup of tea (or you lack the knowledge) is simply the best way to display ignorance.
 
5.56 said:
I am an all or none guy too.

However I do like the setup on the combo edge Para's from Spyderco.
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Those are full SE blades, not combo edges. :D

Spyderco does do that with their full SE blades, leaves about 1/2" of the tip (sometimes a little less) PE. I like it.
 
Salvatore2 said:
Have you ever used a stone blade? The serrations are actually very smooth, almost like a plain edge. They are serrated, but they do not tear from my experiences. And I've seen people actually knap plain edge blades out of stone (They are wicked sharp, too. Like nothing you've ever seen...).

I actually have a flint arrow head in my room, it does in fact have a serrated looking edge, but they are incredibly smooth and cut extremely well without tearing up whatever material you are cutting( Granted, I haven't used every kind of serrated knife out there, but with my experiences, serrations aren't all that good... for me, that is. ).
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No, I have not had the pleasure.
Just disagreeing with the "Plain edge for 20.000 years" statement, when as fare as I can tell, its more like serrated from the start and plain edge is the new kid on the block with only a few couple of thousand of years on its back.

And its not like the plain edge 100% wiped out serrations on the face of the earth, although it did largely replace it.
 
I have one knife with partial serrations.

When I want to cut something fine with a lot of control, I choke up on the knife and use the blade right next to the choil.
I do not want serrations there!!

I could see serrations as excellent on a dedicated rescue knife
 
neeman said:
I have one knife with partial serrations.

When I want to cut something fine with a lot of control, I choke up on the knife and use the blade right next to the choil.
I do not want serrations there!!

I could see serrations as excellent on a dedicated rescue knife
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Have you tried the Victorinox serrations? they are less pronounced then most, and they are on the end of the blade, not the part near the handle.

As combo blades goes I find the Victorinox to be the ones I like the most.
I don't mind them on a knife, although I shy away from large aggressive ones like spyderco.

I usually sharpen serrations like they are not there and after a few years they are usually gone ;)
 
Hawkings said:
Well that is not exactly true, plain edges only emerged very recently, when man became able to make knives out of metal.
Before that, most blades were made mostly out of stone and indeed very much serrated. :)
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I knew somebody would say exactly that... :D I was about to add "bar obsidian and flint knives" :D
Well, anyway, even there the goal of the flintknapper was to get an edge as clean and plain as possible.
 
Salvatore2 said:
Have you ever used a stone blade? The serrations are actually very smooth, almost like a plain edge. They are serrated, but they do not tear from my experiences. And I've seen people actually knap plain edge blades out of stone (They are wicked sharp, too. Like nothing you've ever seen...).

I actually have a flint arrow head in my room, it does in fact have a serrated looking edge, but they are incredibly smooth and cut extremely well without tearing up whatever material you are cutting( Granted, I haven't used every kind of serrated knife out there, but with my experiences, serrations aren't all that good... for me, that is. ).
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Oftalmic scalpels are still made out of flint, obsidian or special glass.
 
barley said:
To each there own I guess. Serrations, in my opinion, are not a fashion trend nor do they make the user a Ninja. They can be extremely useful in certain situations. Nothing will cut a lariat, and avoid getting into a wreck faster, than a sharp serrated/combo blade. They are not for everyone, which explains why we as purchasers have so many options - not everyone needs the same thing. I read this forum regularly, and am always amazed at the negative/condecending attitude some have towards what doesn't work for them (style, manufacturer etc...). Having an opinion is great (the more the better), and there are many posters on here who are well spoken and respectful. That is why we are here, to exchange ideas and to listen and learn more about knives and the people who use them. The same for CONSTRUCTIVE critisism, but putting down something, usually with some kind of snide remark, because it isn't your cup of tea (or you lack the knowledge) is simply the best way to display ignorance.
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I have absolutely no problem in everybody getting whatever he likes, but I have a problem in having a problem, lately, in finding a goddamn pocket knife which is not "tactical" (whatever it means, usually a bad design:rolleyes: ) and that has a good, serviceable plain blade instead of serrations.:rolleyes:
 
Alarion said:
I have absolutely no problem in everybody getting whatever he likes, but I have a problem in having a problem, lately, in finding a goddamn pocket knife which is not "tactical" (whatever it means, usually a bad design:rolleyes: ) and that has a good, serviceable plain blade instead of serrations.:rolleyes:
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Try a slip joint?
 
Sharks teeth are serrated. If you look at all of them in a row it is another level of serrations. Serrations definitely work and work well!

I prefer all plain. Although I honestly wish I liked combo edge instead. I feel it would be like having a whole different knife. For cutting hoses and rope with a pocket knife serrated can't be beat. I'm against the "idea" of the knife edge not being in line. If the serrated edge was in line with the plain edge I think more people would be into the combo edges. I know I would.
 
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