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Are prices too high on the 560CBCF -- or would you pay even more?

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A few still left over here at 340 - hard to find anywhere.
 
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TEFL0N_D0N_81 said:
I wouldn't even consider that a review. Plus, shortly after the "review", it's up on the bay being sold as new with the same serial number 81.
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Good point.
Still, for those who want a closer view, those are two of the first vids posted.
 
The standard 0560 is $260. Your getting carbon fiber, a nicer machined Ti, and a composite blade with S110V, on top of it being a limited edition. Everyone has there own price that they are willing to pay, but I have a feeling that if you don't pick one up at the sub $450 price that most are going for now, you will never see that price again. Your call people.

There are Spyderco PM2 sprint runs in carbon and S90V that right now demand ridiculous prices from what they once were, if you can even find one. The M390 versions aren't even carbon fiber and have almost doubled in price even after making two separate batches. The 0560CBCF is a hell of a lot more knife than these are, and that's saying a lot.
 
KnottyEagle said:
They were $260. They're going for $200 and less on the Exchange all day every day.
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Are you actually comparing the fact that a standard 0560 that you can buy from a crapload of dealers new, can be gotten for a better deal in the exchange to a limited edition 0560CBCF and really expect that the result should be the same?. Really?

I listed the 0560 MSRP for comparison, that is all. I thought that would be obvious and common sense.
 
Adrenaline_6 said:
Are you actually comparing the fact that a standard 0560 that you can buy from a crapload of dealers new, can be gotten for a better deal in the exchange to a limited edition 0560CBCF and really expect that the result should be the same?. Really?

I listed the 0560 MSRP for comparison, that is all. I thought that would be obvious and common sense.
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Easy there buddy. I realize you were stating the 0560's MSRP for comparison. It was indeed VERY obvious. I was just saying that you could get the 0560's for a better price than $260. No need to be getting mad over something like that.

No, I wasn't comparing anything about the standard 0560 and the 0560CBCF. Again, I was just stating that you can get 0560's for a better price than $260.
 
Fanglekai said:
Bead blasted? No thanks. I love Kershaw stone washing but their bead blasting causes little rust spots. I won't be getting one then.
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kershawguy said:
actually I believe moisture causes rust spots
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Both wrong. It's incessant complaining and lack of wherewithal that causes it. :D


flash900 said:
It was a bad move, IMO, and makes no sense in an otherwise top-quality folder.

Someone needs to go into the CBCF stone-washing business.
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Makes no sense? Have you looked at most of the other composite blades that Kershaw has put out? Bead blasting after etching the edge steel is the best looking way to finish that kind of blade. No sense? I can only assume that's also your opinion, because in reality it makes perfect sense. As for the top-quality comment, I think that the way they implemented the finish on the 0560CBCF is pretty top-quality. I don't know what sources of information you have that are saying their finishing of the blades isn't up to the quality level of the rest of the knife, but I would question those sources.

kershawguy said:
would not have looked nearly as cool as it does now, some of you guys should just start making your own knives, that way you can have them just the way you like and them you would not have to complain about them.
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That's a pretty lofty assumption. They'd complain anyway. :)

Janv said:
From comparing the prototype photos to the shipped stuff i would guess that the bead blasting may have been chosen to better contrast the metals. Atleast that is something it seems to accomplish.
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Bingo.
 
sticktodrum said:
Both wrong. It's incessant complaining and lack of wherewithal that causes it. :D
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And here I thought it was from flapping jaws? Saliva will cause premature oxidization!

I have to concur that the bead blast brings out the true beauty of this blade. If it were stonewashed it would have "washed" out the difference in color or contrast between the two steels. I have a cb leek that is stonewashed and you loose that contrast.
 
Fanglekai said:
Bead blasted? No thanks. I love Kershaw stone washing but their bead blasting causes little rust spots. I won't be getting one then.
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I have not had this experience at all with any knife. I maintain mine and don't live near the ocean.

TEFL0N_D0N_81 said:
What is up with all this complaining? Bunch of divas lately.
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BobSig said:
Ya its worth the price. Its been said a few times now, S110V, machined CF Scale, super detailed Ti for $100-$150 more than a regular 0560. I would have paid more for it if I had to. I love the knife, feels amazing in the hand, super smooth. Its a beautiful chuck of Steel/Ti/CF. Prices will probably start heading up hill pretty soon since all of them have shipped and the supply is whats currently for sale.
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The CBCF is in any estimation a completely new knife - there are variances to the standard 560 in nearly every respect. I have seen how these are made, and it is a very time consuming, detailed, expensive process. You folks would be amazed and probably shocked at how long it takes to machine just one carbon fiber handle scale. Look at the technology in these knives, they exceed any other make or brand in technical content (in my opinion) -

KVT, brazed composite blades, 3d machining; none of that comes cheap on top of titanium and higher end steels as raw material.

I don't see people complaining about some other brands, and they do not have any of the higher-end technical content that the CBCF sports. One of those brands get's its price realization from the promise of tighter tolerances, and they charge at the minimum the MSRP of the CBCF. Get an inlay and it goes up quite a piece from there.

Yes - I think the CBCF is a very good deal at the MSRP or lower, and I put my money where my mouth is. I would have paid more if it were necessary, how much more I can't say right now.

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sticktodrum said:
Makes no I don't know what sources of information you have that are saying their finishing of the blades isn't up to the quality level of the rest of the knife, but I would question those sources.
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It does look nice. That's why I bought one. That's why I paid the price. That's why I'm keeping it. It's a great product.

But that doesn't mean I have to like everything about it. Or keep silent about it. Bead-blasting may look swell but it's a process that's used on low-cost products to save money. I prefer stonewashing.

Yes, that is my opinion. It's a forum. People on forums have opinions. And customers are entitled to express what they want from a product. Manufacturers encourage communication from consumers. KAI is to be commended for making the CFCB for enthusiasts and for offering this forum to hear from us.

Thank you.
 
flash900 said:
Bead-blasting may look swell but it's a process that's used on low-cost products to save money. I prefer stonewashing.
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You can prefer all your heart desires I am not asking you to stop or not opionate, I do however wholeheartedly disagree with the highlighted above., it is entirely incorrect. There were specific reasons why it was chosen. Most of those have been discussed.
 
So we're going with the "I prefer this, therefore the thing I don't prefer is low end used on low cost production products" thing. Yeah, got it. You're welcome.

And you can express your opinion all you want. So can I. I just don't play the victim when my views are challenged. I'm not trying to stifle anything, and it's disingenuous to pretend that people disagreeing with you is somehow a bad thing. This is a two-way street here.
 
sticktodrum said:
So we're going with the "I prefer this, therefore the thing I don't prefer is low end used on low cost production products" thing. Yeah, got it. You're welcome.
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If you have any evidence to the contrary, we're all ears.
 
If stonewashing is so high priced, then how come the Kershaw Tremor is able to be priced at $20?

Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer stonewashing too, because it hides imperfections (that come along with use) better, but I'm not complaining.
 
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