Are S&W folders any good for casual use ?

i also recommend the spyderco byrd line. they're good knives for the price. i have a crossbill that i carry everyday in my back pocket. good steel, decent edge, lots of knife and strong lockup, and with a couple of the models (crow, cara cara, crossbill) you can pick between a couple of different handle choices.
 
Hah, paper weights :)
Cool ! I see a lot of spyderco recommendations so that will be my next folder !
It's funny that knives from a company like S&W aren't extremely well made..

China kills them all in the end.
 
Its possible that their are some models from S&W that would work alright for light use, but its a definite that their are knives from kershaw, spyderco, CRKT around that price range that will be better made.

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I EDC'd a few of their knives when I was first getting into them. They worked, but constantly need sharpening. There are better knives out there for the price, or spend an extra $20 and get a cheap Benchmade (if you can find a discontinued Red class).
 
So basically anything by Boker, Kershaw, Spyderco and CRKT will be good and reliable ? (These are the companies with cheap folder lines)
What do you think of those "MAGNUM" folders ? It says "MAGNUM, a division of Boker" on the box..
 
Hah, paper weights :)
Cool ! I see a lot of spyderco recommendations so that will be my next folder !
It's funny that knives from a company like S&W aren't extremely well made..

It's hard to go wrong with Spyderco and/or the Byrd line. I think you will be pretty safe with them.

The S&W knives aren't really from S&W, they just liscensed the name to...I believe Talyor (Im sure someone will correct me if I got that wrong). The quality of the knives is so far from the quality of their guns that I found it odd they would let their name be put on such a generally low end of knives, but times are tough and money is money...but still.
 
Quality Control for S&W knives is very iffy. You may end up with a knife that will serve you well. But the chances of getting a junk knife too high for my money. I'd spend another 10 bucks for better quality.

Byrd knives are also made in China, but the quality control is very high. The chances of getting a lemon is on par with Japan or US made knife. I have 6 or 7 Byrds and a few Chinese Spydies. They are all very good knives. RAT-1 is also a good buy.
 
I like knives that are a good value. Moras, Opinel, etc. are good deals for low prices. There are lots of examples across all price ranges. Since I can't justify spending a lot of money on my addiction, I'm always looking for good deals on blades on auction sites, websites, and forums. That's how I get my fix without drawing the ire of my wife.

I have one S&W knife, and it was not a good value, even for only $12 or $13 or so. I will say, though, that it has served a purpose, and I still have it. I had always been interested in getting a karambit (this was before the CLB Boker one came out), so I got a Smith and Wesson to check out the pattern. I don't need a knife that's designed for self defense, but I just wanted one to play with.

I learned that I don't like the pattern well enough to get an Emerson or other higher end model for much more money, and it makes a decent pruner to stick in my pocket when I'm working in the yard. It will probably break, and I won't care.
 
It's funny that knives from a company like S&W aren't extremely well made.

Smith & Wesson doesn't make them, and as far as I know, never did. I think they always contracted out for them and today, Taylor Brands LLC simply owns the licensing rights to use the name. That's why you'll see S&W and (imported) Schrade branded knives next to each other in a store like Big 5, and they're identical except for the brand name on the knife.

I have a S&W Maverick, form the late 70's, that is very well made. American made, nice thin blade that's great for slicing, and takes & holds a very good edge. It's an interframe design, IIRC, and comes with a 'Pull-The-Dot' sheath. It puts the current S&W's to shame.

thx - cpr
 
Hi Cruzer23 -

I Have two s&w folders - one is a small "cuttin horse" with a 2.5" partially serrated blade, and the other is a slightly larger 3" tanto blade with a black coating.

These knives are only decent, not terrible in my opinion, but not very good compared to a good knife, like a Kershaw for instance.

Both of my S&W knifes were given to me by my son, so they hold sentimental value for me and I do carry and use them.

The smaller knife takes a good edge and holds it with moderate use. The blade pivot holds the clip in place, and it comes loose after a day of carry and occasional use. The thumb studs are located such that when you have the knife in your pocket, the thumb stud is ever so slightly below the top edge of your pocket and it is noticeably in the way.

The larger knife does not have the partial serrations, so I like that better. The black coating on the blade scratches right off, not very durable.

The scales are made of rubber, and smell like rubber, leaving your hand smelling of rubber also. The grip is nicely textured and feels good in the hand.

For $10 or so, you'll probably get your cutting value out of these, they don't rust up and will take a decent edge if properly sharpened.

I would not BUY one, but if you wanted a very inexpensive knife to throw in a tool box or in the glove box etc, they would be ok.

I did not read the whole thread - but I am sure some of the dwellers here have echoed my suggestion to look toward a Kershaw or Buck or other knife that will cost a little more but will pay you back many times in quality.

best regards -

mqqn
 
So basically anything by Boker, Kershaw, Spyderco and CRKT will be good and reliable ? (These are the companies with cheap folder lines)
What do you think of those "MAGNUM" folders ? It says "MAGNUM, a division of Boker" on the box..

Hi Cruzer23 -

Well - I bought a friend a Boker Magnum for Christmas - it was a Grizzly model.

It was very nice, seemed well made, was very sharp as delivered, but it was stamped "made in China" on the blade - oops - I did not look close enough.

I would not have bought it if I had done my homework and noticed the Chinese sourcing.

However , the knife was of good quality and it was a nice looking knife.

I just hate to buy non-US made items - I will buy Bokers that are made in Germany. The Boker Magnums are manufactured to Boker specifications according to the Boker web site, and these would be a better knife than the S&W's I have - in my opinion.

best regards -

mqqn
 
This one has been beat to hell for eight or nine years, My EDC. I abuse it pretty good. I would have to say that they hold up well. At least this one sure is. I bought three of them for 25.00. This one is the Extreme Ops.
 

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Not all S&W knives are made by the same manufacturers, and to answer your question, some of them are quite good for casual use. The Extreme Ops pictured below originally sold for $85, but could be had for five dollars a few years later. I bought a bunch of them to give away and YES, the quality is there for a medium grade knife. Other S&W knives are okay for ten and twenty dollars -- certainly better than Maxam and other ultra cheap knives -- and it all depends on what you pick and what you can get them for. A few years ago, I got a shot at some CRKT S-2s, which have ATS-34 blades and titanium frames for $25 each (including shipping). This was an astounding deal for a quality 4-inch blade knife.

No one brand will give you great quality and price on all knives. All Spydercos will be quality knives, but some are frankly more expensive than what I think they're worth. So you have to hunt for bargains. (Spyderco's Native was a great value from Wal*Mart, but they're no longer available for the modest price of $40.)

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These Extreme Ops knives sold for eighty-plus bucks when they first
came out. I got these for five dollars each, and they're pretty well made.
The plain edge also holds its edge very well and the serrated blade has
its uses.


Another great bargain in the knife world is the Spyderco Byrd series, especially the Cara Cara. One model has an FRN handle and the better ones have G10s. Both, however, are great for the price.

Sometimes, each knife must be judged on its own merit. Cold Steel doesn't make their knives, but they exercise very good control over those who do and their knives are generally of a good uniform quality. CRKT also makes decent medium grade knives, but some tend to be a bit heavy (though strong). Spyderco makes their own knives and they make a consistently good product.

I've seen a number of S&W knives that are good for general carry, but they're not likely to be top tier knives. But they do tend to be better than many people think in thier price range. Smoky Mountain Knife Works sell many of them for around tend bucks. (These are folders, mind you.)

They're good for opening packages and general cutting chores, but I wouldn't depend on most of them for self defense. Knives have different locking mechanisms and I don't generally like liner locks unless they have a back up safety.

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This Homeland Security makes for a strong outdoor knife and I think
it's generally been underrated. Friends of mine with this knife have
used it for all sorts of things and it's virtually indestructible, plus
it holds a reasonable edge.
 
Hi folks -

Confederate has a good point that I did not make well - not all the S&W knives are created equal - the ones that you will see for $10 hanging on the rack at O'Reillys Auto Parts etc (which is the price range the OP requested) are the ones that I am talking about in my prior post. I think s&w has better quality knives that sell for more, but I have no experience with those knives.

best regards -

mqqn
 
Magnum is Boker's entry level made-in-china series. The ones I have are pretty well made but the blade is a low end 440A - normal for the price. Quality/price is ok.
However for not much more you have access to the Taiwan-made Boker Plus series, which are really well made, offer interesting designs, decent midrange steel and an excellent quality/price.
German-made Bokers are excellent at the high end but rather expensive in the USA. The cheaper made in Germany ones are sometimes good but usually the Boker Plus series is more convincing.
 
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