Are the Byrd's the best deal for $20?

Sal Glesser said:
Hi Buck,

440C has 16%-18% Chrome. that's the ingredient that categorizes the 440 series. A, B, or C is determined by the carbon content.

8Cr13MoV has 13% Chrome. Quite different.

sal
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My mistake. I could swear I remember reading on the sypderco forums here at some point a discussion about the byrd line originally supposed to be 440C, but the steel that came from some china factory wasnt quite 440C, so you guys ended up calling it something else (8Cr13MoV). My memory has been taxed lately with finals and moving, so I may be mistaken.
 
I have to reccomend the Junglee folders as my choice. And they are made from better steel (AUS-10 or ATS-34) in Japan. Either one of these can be found for around $30.



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Buy the cara-cara now and save up for the endura later. Then tell us how they compare!
 
Buck268 said:
My mistake. I could swear I remember reading on the sypderco forums here at some point a discussion about the byrd line originally supposed to be 440C, but the steel that came from some china factory wasnt quite 440C, so you guys ended up calling it something else (8Cr13MoV). My memory has been taxed lately with finals and moving, so I may be mistaken.
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Hi Buck,

Your memory is good, the "wasn't quite 440C" was a nice way of putting it. The actual steel was in fact 8Cr13MoV. The difference between 440C & 8Cr13MoV was greater than we could accept and still call it 440C.

sal
 
Thanks for the info guys.

Some clarifications though, I'm looking for:

One hand open
locking (any kind)
3 1/2" or less blade

I guess the cara-cara is out. Meadowlark seems closer to my preferred length. Also, how is the raven?
 
The G10 Meadowlark is a super solid little knife. Insane value for the money. I also really like the Boker Trance. I have been carrying one EDC for a month or so now. Best bang for the buck IMHO would be the Meadowlark, Trance, and the Kabar Doziers. If you want something a little smaller, check out the Subcom, Wharcom and G10 Robin.
 
I'm w/ the others that said the Meadowlark or Trance. For me, I'd take the Trance for the following reasons:

1. Less wide in my pocket (the spyderhole takes up additional width)
2. More cutting edge
3. I prefer the flipper/thumbstud combo over the hole open

I've never handled the Kabar Doziers, so I can't comment on those.

jtallant - where can you find the Junglee Marshall PE for $30? I've only found the combo-edge...PE is more.
 
kindred_spirits said:
Hmm... I've narrowed it down to the Byrd Cara Cara G-10 and the Boker Trance. How is the 8crmov steel? Is AUS 8 much better? And how is the lockup on the lockback byrds?
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You might give the Kershaw Storm and Storm II a look. They are phenominal and can be found for about 25 bucks. The Sandvik 13C26 steel they use is slowly becoming my favorite all around knife steel. Takes and holds a mean edge and can really take a beating as well. Plus, the Storms are US made if that matters to you (doesn't to me, but to each their own) and Kershaw has top notch fit and finish.
 
JSR said:
jtallant - where can you find the Junglee Marshall PE for $30? I've only found the combo-edge...PE is more.
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I said "for around $30" I know the strait edge run closer to $40 and the partial serated blades run under $30. Which is weird, cause every other brand charges more for a semi serated or full serated blade vs. a strait edge.
 
hi kindred_spirits,
I guess I'll vote as "Highly Recommended" the FRN or G10 Byrd Meadowlark/Robin.....great knives as are the aforementioned Subcom Folders and Trance from Bokerplus.... :thumbup: :thumbup:
The Raven is kinda CaraCara sized.....the Crow is sortuv Robin-sized though thicker profiled...the Crow and Raven are good knives if you prefer linerlocks...i've got both and neither have bladeplay....lock is very secure...they are "Recommended" along with the Kabar Dozier folder series..... :thumbup:
 
If your used to liner/frame locks it'll take a minute or two to adjust, but yes they generally aren't too bad. Especially Spyderco's mid locks.
 
kindred_spirits said:
Hmm... I've never owned a lockback before. Are they easy to close one handed?
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Since the Byrds have a finger choil, yes. You disengage the lockbar and drop the blade on your finger. With the finger choil there is no danger of cutting yourself. Actually, personally, I find a lockback much safer to close one handed than a linerlock.
 
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