Are these bad transactions ?

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mikemck

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I don't know what the problem is, but just about everyone I've dealt with in the past two weeks hasn't lived up to expectations.

Mostly it's just been people not letting me know that what I sent them has arrived, which I politely request, so I'll know the deal is done.
Some of it has been people not shipping items out when they said they would, and pretty much implying that "when they get around to it" is good enough.

And I guess the worst would be a trade I did with someone here who not only didn't ship when they said they would, and couldn't be bothered to let me know that what I sent them arrived, but then apparently posted what I had sent them for trade/sale *before* what they sent me even arrived! And yes, we did specify a 3 day inspection..

Is it just unreasonable to expect people to comply with what they agreed to ?
Am I being harsh ? I know sometimes ppl get sidetracked, and I understand that, but dang, it's like 10 deals in the last 2 weeks have had problems.

When I make a deal with someone, I stick to it, I ship when I say I'll ship, items are as described, I e-mail with the tracking number when I send the item, and I insist that people let me know if there is a problem with something I have sent them. To me, that's just good business, and I like to make sure people get what they expected.

Anyway, maybe it's just me..

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mikemck@austin.rr.com
 
I can understand your frustrations. It sometimes feels like your talking to a brick wall. Plus, I see no real reason to lie about when you ship items, its not like the item will get there faster if you said you shipped it before you actually did. Hopefully your luck will change.

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Dave

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Mike, it sometimes comes down to the law of averages and being down on ones luck. The more transactions, the more could go astray. And in your case, a lot at one time!

I too like to keep on top of all stages of transactions. From the first inquiry to the time of arrival of goods/payment to both partys. But as you' ve stated, we all can get sidetracked at times, including yours truly.

I recall as far as a few months back, I could not finalize quite a few potential transactions when they were seemingly done deals. Some bailed out after agreeing. Some sold or traded without giving the chance for a final decision. And some do not even provide the courtesy of reply... til a few weeks later!! But well, that' s done. So you keep your own "list" of thumbs down experiences and learn from it. So yes, sometimes we all go into "slumps" from time to time.

But this thread is a good one. And these issues need to be addressed periodically.

L8r,
Nakano

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[This message has been edited by Nakano 2 (edited 11-19-2000).]
 
Hey Mike, haven't you heard? People like us are dinosaurs. Personal integrity doesn't mean anything anymore. Honor has no place in the modern world. The president can look us in the eye, lie his a$$ off, get caught and get away with it. In business, the object is to get the money. One only has to look at this forum to see that to many companies, service is way down the list of importance. It's to bad that so many individuals seem to be following this new standard.

I am writing this partly tongue-in-cheek. Most of the people that I have dealt with here and in the pursuit of my other hobbies, have been very good to deal with. It does sometimes seem that the bad deals come in bunches. Ebb and flow I guess. I'm just a little jaded right now due to the questionable ethics of some people that I do business with.

I smile with the knowledge that sooner or later, all the people who left me hanging, misled me, or tried to screw me over will "get theirs".

You are definitely not alone,
Hawk

 
Mike, couldn't agree with you more. I think the most important thing is communication. Seems whats left unsaid in a posting is more important than what is. I went though a period recently where every transaction seemed to go sour. For me, overseas deals are the riskiest. Each country has different policies and let me tell you, US Postal Service, worts and all is the best in the world. What can you do? Deal with those you've had experience with or have a proven and documented track record. The cheapest price can often cost you more in the long run. Of course, their's always going to be scum out there. If your victimized by them, move on, it was only stuff and that's trivial in the big picture. Hope your luck changes soon because it will change.

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Mike
OUCH!......damn
 
Mike, I agree with you. One of the most frustrating things is waiting for something to come in the mail and being told after the fact that it wasn't sent on time, and that you were therefore waiting for nothing.

I think we all understand that stuff happens, and sometimes things get delayed. However, I believe that if one undertakes to send something at a certain time but is delayed, one has an obligation to inform the recieving party. This notification should be given immediately, so that the reciever can plan around the delay.

Likewise, I think it is just common courtesy to send confirmation of reciept of the item, to the sender. I know that, if I make a trade or transaction, it is important for me to know that the other party got what I sent and that it arrived in good condition. After all, this reflects on my integrity.

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Hugh
 
Sometimes I take longer to send stuff than I would like, but I never promise to send something on a certain date and not send it. Plus, I try to keep on top of situations via e-mail, etc., so people know I take them, and our transactions, seriously.

On a similar note to what some of the rest of you have been saying, I'm a little ticked,that I recently sent someone e-mail making an offer on three knives they had for sale in the For Sale forum. They e-mailed me back right away, and said they'd think about it and let me know that evening. Didn't hear, e-mailed them again, still haven't heard. Of course, sometimes Yahoo mail is a little slow in getting stuff through, but it's been close to a week, so I doubt that's the problem. Oh well, I didn't lose anything, and the only thing they lost was the chance to do business with me. But I still would have appreciated hearing "no" rather than silence.
 
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