Haebbie, I dont like TOPS knives, that just me. However, I did spend just over 2 years during 2 tours in Iraq as an Infantryman and feel I know just a little bit about tactical knives. Very few soldiers, to include those in Special Operations, use TOPS knives despite TOPS's advertizing. IMO they are generally mall ninja gimmick armchair commando knives that are priced far above thier value. I was not at all pleased to see Buck develop a relationship with them. That being said I do think highly of my CSAR-T, but except for the blade holes its just a beefed up Alpah/Bravo. I think Buck needs to keep the 650 the way it is as it was just fine. Dont fix something that aint broke and dont come up with a solution to a problem that does'nt exist. If Buck wanted to update the 650 why did'nt they just go with the "NightStrider" build out they did a few years ago. IMO that was one of the best tactical knives they ever produced, as was the 888 Strider/Buck Solution. I swear, If Buck goes the way of SOG and TOPS I'll dump them in a heartbeat and go back to using Strider and Chris Reeves knives again exclusively.