Are wilderness survival schools/courses worth it?

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Hi guys, I'm writing an article for a survival blog about the value of wilderness survival schools versus alternative options like books, videos or online courses.

I've never attended a survival school or had any "formal" type of training so I was hoping those of you with experience could help me out by giving some input. Also, feel free to recommend any schools/courses that you think are worth the money. Thanks.
 
Hi guys, I'm writing an article for a survival blog about the value of wilderness survival schools versus alternative options like books, videos or online courses.

I've never attended a survival school or had any "formal" type of training so I was hoping those of you with experience could help me out by giving some input. Also, feel free to recommend any schools/courses that you think are worth the money. Thanks.

I'd suggest OP attend a few classes before writing a blog post about it. Second hand knowledge is just that.
 
And this is what sucks about the internet

I'm sorry if you don't like my post/question/approach. I have no intention of making up a bunch of junk for the sake of a blog post but rather intend to provide a "round-up" type article that features some recommended survival schools and insights into why people think they are valuable or not.

I am not a survival expert, nor am I pretending to be one. I am simply doing research by asking questions to those who know more than I do on the subject.
 
The usefulness of different media or schools depends on what you already know.

If you already know the basics of fire for example then you don't need to go to a school to get different ferro rods explained to you. A simple video or text would suffice.

Considering cost and time schools should be best to develop the right mindset and cover the basics. For everything else I think different avenues would be more efficient and tailored to your own needs and interests which you have identified by then.
 
Ok I'll play along. I went to the BOSS school 2 yrs ago. I took the 7 day primitive skills course. This is the easiest and cheapest course. It was worth it for me and I'd recommend them and hope to go again for the 14 day field course. I live in Los Angeles and this experience is a welcome challenge and opportunity for me. It's only valuable if you have an interest. You need both time and money for these schools so you have to really want it
 
One approach might be to compile a list of survival schools/courses and Google each of them by name plus "review." Also Google them plus dead OR died OR fatal to find the ones where students have died during the course,
 
One approach might be to compile a list of survival schools/courses and Google each of them by name plus "review." Also Google them plus dead OR died OR fatal to find the ones where students have died during the course,

Do you fail if you die during a survival school?
 
This thread could turn REALLY entertaining.

Only the instructors fail if you die during survival school.
 
I have to say that this is what I've come to loathe about journalism on the internet. Someone who has personally invested no effort in achieving expertise in an area taking the role of teacher/mentor/commentator in that field. There is a proverb, if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. That said, you can almost certainly take this lack-luster, half-hearted type of journalism to a career at Yahoo. They do so love to publish half-formed and hair-brained ideas under the guise of 'articles', 'news', and 'journalism'.

That said, you know nothing about survival? GREAT you're in the perfect shoes to do some great journalism. Might I recommend:
A) Buy a survival book, read it, and practice it's skills. Do some 'survival experimentation' put yourself in a 'situation' with a support network in case it fails you, and see how well you do. Do you make it through the night/s? Do you make it back? Do you last until help comes? What skills worked? What didn't?
B) Interview EXPERTS, not the internet. Interview SAR teams. Interview people with established reputations as experts in the field of survival. Interview survivors.
C) Take a class or two. Acquire the skills, practice the skills, and then create another situation and test the skills? What works better with more experience since your book/s trials? What skills/tools have you ditched as worthless or impractical? How do you feel now compared to having read the book. Maybe the books and classes both contained the same knowledge/recommendations, but maybe the hands on instruction made the difference. Maybe it didn't?

Now, good luck, and go do some real journalism!
 
I have to say that this is what I've come to loathe about journalism on the internet. Someone who has personally invested no effort in achieving expertise in an area taking the role of teacher/mentor/commentator in that field. There is a proverb, if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. That said, you can almost certainly take this lack-luster, half-hearted type of journalism to a career at Yahoo. They do so love to publish half-formed and hair-brained ideas under the guise of 'articles', 'news', and 'journalism'.

That said, you know nothing about survival? GREAT you're in the perfect shoes to do some great journalism. Might I recommend:
A) Buy a survival book, read it, and practice it's skills. Do some 'survival experimentation' put yourself in a 'situation' with a support network in case it fails you, and see how well you do. Do you make it through the night/s? Do you make it back? Do you last until help comes? What skills worked? What didn't?
B) Interview EXPERTS, not the internet. Interview SAR teams. Interview people with established reputations as experts in the field of survival. Interview survivors.
C) Take a class or two. Acquire the skills, practice the skills, and then create another situation and test the skills? What works better with more experience since your book/s trials? What skills/tools have you ditched as worthless or impractical? How do you feel now compared to having read the book. Maybe the books and classes both contained the same knowledge/recommendations, but maybe the hands on instruction made the difference. Maybe it didn't?

Now, good luck, and go do some real journalism!

Cheers!

I could not have said it better myself.

I have an acquaintance that is a "journalist." She makes her money writing overviews of various subjects for a variety of websites that are clearinghouses for information. (I am not going to name them, but you have probably seen these sites that have information "ABOUT" a bunch of different things. Needless to say, she know almost nothing about most of the subjects about which she writes, but 1000s of folks every day see her "expert" commentary on backpacking or tree trimming or whateversubjectyougoogleandmovepastthefirstpage...

To the OP... NO. Don't blog about this subject about which you know nothing.
 
Whats the blogs name?

I might want to be entertainted later as well. (yes that's spelled correctly)
 
The usefulness of different media or schools depends on what you already know.

If you already know the basics of fire for example then you don't need to go to a school to get different ferro rods explained to you. A simple video or text would suffice.

Considering cost and time schools should be best to develop the right mindset and cover the basics. For everything else I think different avenues would be more efficient and tailored to your own needs and interests which you have identified by then.

I agree. Learn the "to do's" and the "NOT to do's" in a school to give you a foundation. Beyond teaching a survival school also let's you practice in a safe environment which is really key. You learn more by doing. After that you'll be better able to identify what will work for you and your environment. And what kind of knowledge you need for the type of outdoors activity you're doing. Some skills just aren't practical everywhere and for everyone so taking an all inclusive class makes less sense at a certain point. For instance I'm not going to pay money and take time off work to take a class that spends a lot of time on fire by friction because I see it as a waste of time for my area. The amount of skill needed to reliably start a friction fire at the time of year I'll need a fire(wet and more wet) is just time prohibitive. I'd rather just carry a mini bic and concentrate on other skills/interests.
 
I have to say that this is what I've come to loathe about journalism on the internet. Someone who has personally invested no effort in achieving expertise in an area taking the role of teacher/mentor/commentator in that field. There is a proverb, if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. That said, you can almost certainly take this lack-luster, half-hearted type of journalism to a career at Yahoo. They do so love to publish half-formed and hair-brained ideas under the guise of 'articles', 'news', and 'journalism'.

That said, you know nothing about survival? GREAT you're in the perfect shoes to do some great journalism. Might I recommend:
A) Buy a survival book, read it, and practice it's skills. Do some 'survival experimentation' put yourself in a 'situation' with a support network in case it fails you, and see how well you do. Do you make it through the night/s? Do you make it back? Do you last until help comes? What skills worked? What didn't?
B) Interview EXPERTS, not the internet. Interview SAR teams. Interview people with established reputations as experts in the field of survival. Interview survivors.
C) Take a class or two. Acquire the skills, practice the skills, and then create another situation and test the skills? What works better with more experience since your book/s trials? What skills/tools have you ditched as worthless or impractical? How do you feel now compared to having read the book. Maybe the books and classes both contained the same knowledge/recommendations, but maybe the hands on instruction made the difference. Maybe it didn't?

Now, good luck, and go do some real journalism!

Cheers!

I could not have said it better myself.

I have an acquaintance that is a "journalist." She makes her money writing overviews of various subjects for a variety of websites that are clearinghouses for information. (I am not going to name them, but you have probably seen these sites that have information "ABOUT" a bunch of different things. Needless to say, she know almost nothing about most of the subjects about which she writes, but 1000s of folks every day see her "expert" commentary on backpacking or tree trimming or whateversubjectyougoogleandmovepastthefirstpage...

To the OP... NO. Don't blog about this subject about which you know nothing.

I don't know why you guys are all bent out of shape. If you feel that strongly then why on earth are you on an internet forum. Same bunk, different venue. :confused:
 
Since the article will be based on second-hand opinion, here's mine:

Some programs are probably worth it, depending on what you already know.

Some probably aren't.

Anyone who disagrees with this assessment doesn't know what they're talking about.

:D
 
Shotgun,

In forums is one thing, it happens, whatever, it is a place of discussion. In journalism, it should not. Articles ought be researched, fact checked and edited with care. Sadly the internet's democratization of information has also devastated standards. And yes, I still rail against that loss of standards in some places.
 
That said, you know nothing about survival? GREAT you're in the perfect shoes to do some great journalism. Might I recommend:
A) Buy a survival book, read it, and practice it's skills. Do some 'survival experimentation' put yourself in a 'situation' with a support network in case it fails you, and see how well you do. Do you make it through the night/s? Do you make it back? Do you last until help comes? What skills worked? What didn't?

Actually a very good idea.
With the interest in survival AND the proliferation of books aimed at that market, it would actually provide a useful service.

I would tweak it thus though:
1)Bring several books and test the various methods in them for things like fire, building shelter, finding direction, etc. See which ones got it right.

2)Don't practice the skills in advance. These books are thrown out there into the public sphere with the notion that one can buy it, and have at least some advantage by tossing it into their pack. They generally suggest practice, but the reality is that the practice is almost never done. It would be truly journalistic to go out there with a selection of these books and see if they can help the unpracticed person at least a little bit. :)
 
I didn't read every post here cuz it's a pretty simple answer. Yes and No! Some are gonna be worth your time and money others are not! Just like these tactical shooting courses and such that have popped up. It's up to you to decide if the school or class or course you wanna take is worth your money. Something's such as Red Cross wilderness 1st aid classes and such are valuable and important skills, land navigation reading maps using compasses are musts...look for Red Cross or search
And rescue in your area to offer these classes or call them and ask where they recommend you seek training and go from there.
 
Boy Scouts and the Army is not included in the list...............
opps.................

Did the OP get our message load and clear
lol
 
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