Are you a dealer?

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  1. Liu Kang

    Liu Kang Banned BANNED

    Jul 20, 2007
    Well I may pick up certain "types of models" because I actually have a collection. I even know of a few people here on this very same forum that does the same thing, I can give you some names if you want. As for being mad at me cause I'm faster, I don't know what to tell you. It's a HOG thing, we horde and buy what we can as fast as possible, it's a trait for what we do, and if you didn't know, you better ask somebody. Look around, you will see people posting Busse porn with more then one of the same models never used... If it wasn't me, it would be someone else. I don't get mad if someone gets what I want, it's what we hogs call hogfu... I always give people props for beating me and congratulate them, many sweet knives out there. And if searching just the exchange is your only way to find your "grail knife" you better mail me for better methods, cause you really need to work if you want something.
    Your mad cause I don't use my knives? Really? It's my knife, I can do whatever I want with it. And I'm guessing well over 50% of all Busse never get used. Some people just collect knives, I have an chain saw at home that can cut down a tree faster then any BM, that's what they were made for. Maybe I don't want to throw out my arm trying to chop down a tree, we can't all be strong and in shape like you. Maybe you should frequent the Busse forums more often, you will see I contribute plenty, help people out with picture request and information when I know something. And if you are good, you might catch a glimpse of some of my personal collection that is not up for sale. Some people especially hogs don't feel the need to show off the everything they have. They don't need the whole world knowing what knives they have. And if I was willing to sell your knife back to you for nothing more then paying for shipping on my part, I guess it's not just about the money for me.

    And if you are telling me nobody here buys a knife when they see it great deal to trade or resell it later on, they are either stupid, don't have the funds or lying.

    As for everything else, I sent you email since I don't think everything on earth should be posted.

    So I believe that I'll be the first member here paying for a dealer membership that doesn't get a discount on any brand knife.
     
  2. bearguide

    bearguide

    185
    Aug 31, 2008
    I certainly don't agree with what's been going on here, but it's obviously not my place to make these decisions.
    I've done a couple of deals with Dan, and it's really nice to know there are still some very honest and trustworthy people such as him in this decadent world.

    Hopefully your dealer fee will go toward a server upgrade so that it doesn't take all night to load one page of your fine knife collection. :D

    I don't post much, but thought it was time someone responded to this thread with something positive to say.

    ...........and here I thought it was only Canadians who have an inferiority complex.
     
  3. Spark

    Spark HPIC - Hatas gonna Hate Staff Member Administrator Super Mod Moderator

    Oct 2, 1998
    All of this is not pertinent to the subject at hand. You can be a great guy, but when you are buying knives to flip them on a regular basis, especially in quantities, you are a dealer. End of story.
     
  4. Parasitic Psycho

    Parasitic Psycho

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    Feb 22, 2009
    Or just not a greedy profiteer...... I personally never try to make a profit, I take pride in giving someone a great deal on a knife. If I bought it for $280, I'm going to sell it for $260. If I bought it for $200, I'll sell it for $150. It's not about fast cash or being stupid. It's all about passing on an experience to those that may not have been able to have it before. Something I don't think you care the slightest bit about. It would appear as though it IS all about the money for you, otherwise the profit margin wouldn't be so high.

    Btw, I don't hold anything against people out to make a profit. I completely understand wanting to get your money back and perhaps a little extra. What I don't understand is people taking advantage of other peoples generosity by buying knives at low prices and then almost immediately having it up for sale with a considerable mark up. Seems like a dealer discount to me.....just not straight from the manufacturer.
     
  5. Liu Kang

    Liu Kang Banned BANNED

    Jul 20, 2007
    Hey Parasitic Psycho, I don't think you figured it out yet, we are talking about Busse here. I don't buy other knives on this forum and resell. I might have some that I got in a trade because not everyone has funds to buy the knife they wanted. Show me a non Busse knife here I did that bought on this forum and is selling here. And for Busse, well unless you are a HOG, you just wouldn't understand the obsession.
     
  6. shaving sharp

    shaving sharp Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 19, 2007
    Comments Withdrawn,don't want to be part of this it is going in the wrong direction.
     
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  7. Cougar Allen

    Cougar Allen Buccaneer (ret.) Gold Member

    Oct 9, 1998
    False. Notdos already posted in this thread....
     
  8. Liu Kang

    Liu Kang Banned BANNED

    Jul 20, 2007
    Hey shaving sharp, just because you had a M9LE doesn't mean you are a HOG. Try some INFI and see for yourself what a real knife is really all about!
     
  9. Liu Kang

    Liu Kang Banned BANNED

    Jul 20, 2007
    I see him showing as a Registered User
     
  10. shaving sharp

    shaving sharp Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 19, 2007
    Comments Withdrawn.
     
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  11. Space_Monkey

    Space_Monkey

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    Dec 13, 2009
    This thread is spiralling into a :eek::eek::eek::eek: measuring contest............................................ Can't see what there is left to argue about :p
     
  12. LMT66

    LMT66 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 18, 2008
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  13. MustardMan

    MustardMan

    Mar 14, 2009
    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    So glad I've decided to avoid that forum, with attitudes like this.



    Dan, I think you are a nice guy - I really do, but you've embraced the "hogs eat their own" nonsense just a bit too much, and turned it into outright greed. You have played the victim many times here, yet what you are doing is plain as day - you sell more knives than many of the dealers on these boards. To pretend you aren't acting as a dealer - that is, buying knives with the explicit intention of reselling them - is at best deluding yourself, and at worst outright lying. You and I have had this discussion before, and I'm sure many others have said so... rather than acting innocent and pretending like there aren't MANY, MANY folks who consider you a dealer, you should just suck it up and admit that you are in fact a dealer - whether you get discounts or not, whether you are a nice guy or not. At the end of the day, "nice guy" during sales just means "good customer service". You have good customer service in spades, but you are a dealer by any reasonable person's definition of the word.
     
  14. richard thurman

    richard thurman

    Nov 9, 2005
    I have a bunch of old stock and I am a dealer but I dont have A salers membership so I dont do it here because that is against the rules and we need to obey the ruls. if you leep breaking the rules then you need to go somewhere else.
     
  15. aafanatic

    aafanatic

    99
    Feb 7, 2007
    I started this thread because I saw some one selling knives for personal profit as a hobbyist. Liu, if you weren't making money doing this you would just be a very active hobbyist. Selling at a profit IS dealing. If you want to sell at cost, no one will think your dealing. It's not jealousy. I don't buy my friends collections when they need money, I loan them money. I don't sell their collections for more than I paid and keep the money; that's business, not friendship. No one is saying you are not good at what you do, it's just that what you do is for personal gain. I'm glad you figured out how to make money doing something that you enjoy, just don't pretend that you would do this without personal financial gain ie( buying and selling for profit) dealing.
     
  16. Planterz

    Planterz Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 26, 2004
    Liu Kang, if you're not a dealer (by Spark's definition), then explain these posts:

    If you differentiate between "personal" knives and others you're selling, then what are the other knives? Either you're the owner of some sort of business that buys things (not necessarily just knives) purely to resell them (or you're an agent of such a person), or you're doing this privately. By Spark's definition, if you're selling knives that you've acquired expressly for the purpose of reselling (aka "Flipping"), then you're a dealer.

    Now, I'm not saying you're not an enthusiast or collector. One can be both a hobbyist and businessman. But clearly you are a businessman (and a very reputable one), be it out of an actual store or from your garage, and denying that you're anything but, never mind your semantic arguments, is unfair to the Gold/Platinum members who have to pay the same rates as you, and is also unfair to those with Dealer Memberships that pay a much higher premium than yourself.
     
  17. rayban

    rayban

    Apr 14, 2007
    I believe we're finally here now......
     

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  18. Coyja

    Coyja

    969
    Nov 7, 2009
    I'm confused... I though you said you worked for a dealer... and you get NO discount?

    How is it you fail to see that the entire #33 post is the DEFINITION of a dealer?

    And taking trades with the express intent of reselling them makes them simply another form of payment. Thats how a dealer works. I do it every day in the musical instrument industry.

    I'm sure you'll do much better now, as a dealer here, and wish you well, but I've got to say these boil down to simple integrity issues...

    Good Luck!
     
  19. aafanatic

    aafanatic

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    Feb 7, 2007
    trying not to flame:)
     
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  20. Space_Monkey

    Space_Monkey

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    Dec 13, 2009
    Completely agree... +1
     
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