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Arizona Knife Show and BBQ
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sweeeeeet collection guys - I love your bushcrafter collection super, my favorite FB is a bushcrafter too though I only have one of it (hoping to find one in a thicker handle if I ever come across it).
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This is just a quick reply to let everyone know that I will post my thoughts on the event (including photos) probably tomorrow. I got back from Arizona last night and it will take a little while for me to edit the photos and draft the text. Thanks for your patience.
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Is the burl handled knife the Nessmuk in the main picture (bottom row, 7th from left)?
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Hello Fiddleback Friends,
Before I get into my summary and take-aways from this event, I want to give you a little background on how this came about. Phillip and I started exchanging general PMs on the forum late last summer to talk about Fiddlebacks, comment on each others knives, float trade or sale possibilities, compare wish lists, etc.
Through these communications, we also learned that we have many other common interests like hiking, camping, and shooting among other things. Our relationship kicked up a notch when I surprised him by sharking a knife for him from a dealer that I knew was on the top of his wish list. As a thank you for that, Phillip later made me a custom sheath for our common favorite model the Bushcrafter. He also extended the invitation for a dinner on him the next time I made it to Phoenix. In the months since then, we have had many other Fiddleback related transactions between us that have deepened our friendship and respect for each other.
After a long delay due to my falling off a ladder late last year, tearing my ACL, and surgery recovery, we finally settled on a date for what we code named The Visit. The delay led to one big plus for me. If you have followed the Fiddlebacks & Food thread, you saw Phillips posts about the mouthwatering looking pulled pork he made for the Superbowl. I knew right then that that was the meal that I was going to request.
I used to live in Arizona not far from where Phillip is at. One of my best friends and his wife still live there and we have not seen them in quite a while. My wife Melissa and I made arrangements to make it a three day weekend and stay with John & Cindy to catch up with them. Phillip was gracious enough to extend the dinner invitation for John & Cindy to join us in the evening.
Melissa and I arrived a little after noon on Saturday to hang out while the pulled pork was going through its smoking and slow cook process. Phillip and his lovely wife Meredith immediately made us feel at home. They started with a tour of their beautiful house. I got to see the shelf with all of Phillips Fiddlebacks lined up (WOW!!!!!!!). I knew from prior PMs that he played professionally in a band earlier in his life and that showed from seeing his equally impressive collection of musical instruments. I was granted a top secret one day clearance pass to glimpse Phillips amazing gun collection that he has featured in the Fiddlebacks & Firearms thread. Courtesy and OPSEC preclude me from saying much more than that Seal Team 6 would feel jealous of him. We also learned that he paints oil on canvas. Phillip is quite the Renaissance man.
After the tour, we settled into hours of conversation on a variety of subjects while munching on Merediths famous Guacamole Especialle and enjoying a few drinks. Melissa and I agreed that it is the best guacamole that we have ever had. We learned that both Phillip and Meredith share the same advanced degrees and many other interests in life. That is very cool to see in a married couple. They are both brilliant and down-to-earth at the same time. Before we knew it, three hours had flown by and Phillip pulled me away to say that we had better get some pictures taken of our collections to appease the restless forum viewers who demand pictures or it didnt happen.
We set up on his pool table. I deferred to him to arrange the lay-out. If you have seen my previous posts on the forum, you will notice that I never take inside photos. In general, I suck at it. Add in the wide angle view to capture all the knives and I am a fish out of water. Even though Phillips photos are better, Ill post mine anyway.
Here is the whole group. The bottom row as well as the eight on the top left belong to Phillip. The other group on the top row are mine.
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Hello Fiddleback Friends,
Before I get into my summary and take-aways from this event, I want to give you a little background on how this came about. Phillip and I started exchanging general PMs on the forum late last summer to talk about Fiddlebacks, comment on each others knives, float trade or sale possibilities, compare wish lists, etc.
Through these communications, we also learned that we have many other common interests like hiking, camping, and shooting among other things. Our relationship kicked up a notch when I surprised him by sharking a knife for him from a dealer that I knew was on the top of his wish list. As a thank you for that, Phillip later made me a custom sheath for our common favorite model the Bushcrafter. He also extended the invitation for a dinner on him the next time I made it to Phoenix. In the months since then, we have had many other Fiddleback related transactions between us that have deepened our friendship and respect for each other.
After a long delay due to my falling off a ladder late last year, tearing my ACL, and surgery recovery, we finally settled on a date for what we code named The Visit. The delay led to one big plus for me. If you have followed the Fiddlebacks & Food thread, you saw Phillips posts about the mouthwatering looking pulled pork he made for the Superbowl. I knew right then that that was the meal that I was going to request.
I used to live in Arizona not far from where Phillip is at. One of my best friends and his wife still live there and we have not seen them in quite a while. My wife Melissa and I made arrangements to make it a three day weekend and stay with John & Cindy to catch up with them. Phillip was gracious enough to extend the dinner invitation for John & Cindy to join us in the evening.
Melissa and I arrived a little after noon on Saturday to hang out while the pulled pork was going through its smoking and slow cook process. Phillip and his lovely wife Meredith immediately made us feel at home. They started with a tour of their beautiful house. I got to see the shelf with all of Phillips Fiddlebacks lined up (WOW!!!!!!!). I knew from prior PMs that he played professionally in a band earlier in his life and that showed from seeing his equally impressive collection of musical instruments. I was granted a top secret one day clearance pass to glimpse Phillips amazing gun collection that he has featured in the Fiddlebacks & Firearms thread. Courtesy and OPSEC preclude me from saying much more than that Seal Team 6 would feel jealous of him. We also learned that he paints oil on canvas. Phillip is quite the Renaissance man.
After the tour, we settled into hours of conversation on a variety of subjects while munching on Merediths famous Guacamole Especialle and enjoying a few drinks. Melissa and I agreed that it is the best guacamole that we have ever had. We learned that both Phillip and Meredith share the same advanced degrees and many other interests in life. That is very cool to see in a married couple. They are both brilliant and down-to-earth at the same time. Before we knew it, three hours had flown by and Phillip pulled me away to say that we had better get some pictures taken of our collections to appease the restless forum viewers who demand pictures or it didnt happen.
We set up on his pool table. I deferred to him to arrange the lay-out. If you have seen my previous posts on the forum, you will notice that I never take inside photos. In general, I suck at it. Add in the wide angle view to capture all the knives and I am a fish out of water. Even though Phillips photos are better, Ill post mine anyway.
Here is the whole group. The bottom row as well as the eight on the top left belong to Phillip. The other group on the top row are mine.
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Here are some smaller sections of the group:
There is a whole lot of Bushcrafter and Arete goodness on that table. You might have guessed by now that Phillip and I share a love for the rounded pommel models.
After the big group photo session was over , we transitioned to picking up every knife and commenting about our favorite features and/or nuances of each one. While we doing that, we talked about many of our Fiddleback friends who we had dealt with to acquire certain knives. As Phillip said in his opening comment, there are a lot of outstanding folks who frequent this forum. It is fun to trace the genealogy of certain knives and determine that they have made two or three moves in some cases before they came to us.
We started with handling the models that we had no personal experience with. For me, that was the new style 2 Finger Karda and the Big Paw (Bear Paw?) Bushcrafter. For Phillip & Meredith, it was my Patch.
The 2FK has a very thin handle that makes it a great EDC when carried in a pocket sheath. Since I cant carry concealed in California, that model is out for me. The Big Paw is a beautiful knife with a very comfortable handle and nice balance. In the end, I decided that the blade shape is just too pointy for my taste. I know that I am in the minority with that opinion, but I call it as I see it.
Phillip & Meredith found the Patch to be more comfortable than they expected. I think that they might look to add one to their collection down the road.
When we started comparing the Bushcrafters, we had a unique opportunity to experience what hand made really means in terms of variations. Between the two of us we had eighteen BCs to compare. Fourteen (as of today!) are his and four are mine. We have examples in 1/8 tapered, 1/8 SFT, 5/32 tapered, 5/32 SFT, and 3/16 tapered O-1. He also has one 5/32 SFT in CPM 154.
Our feel test results were not always as straightforward as you might think. Every single one felt unique in ways that are difficult to quantify in ways that align with our mathematical minds. Phillips favorite is his Slate Blue one. After holding it, I could find any reason to disagree with his choice. The other two that I was surprised to find that I really like are his canvas Blue Black with the sandblasted handle texture and the 3/16 tapered O-1 with the Buckeye burl handles. I dont think the Blue Black knives sold as well as the regular finish ones. That is probably a shame because based on my handling of Phillips knife, it makes a superior user. The Buckeye burl surprised me by feeling so relatively light and very well balanced. The wood is exceptional also.
Since we were so involved handling knives and talking, we did not get around to taking more pictures of the subjective handling and feel tests before dinner was ready. A Cardinal sin I know!
In order to make it up to everyone, I decided to take some photos at home yesterday to backfill the storyline and provide some visual reference for our observations.
The following knives are my four Bushcrafters:
Here is a pommel view showing the differences in handle thickness going left to right from widest to narrowest. The Blue Jean burlap over natural with racing stripes is my newest one from a couple of weeks ago. It is definitely has the widest handle of all eighteen BCs we compared. My Emerald burlap from January 2014 is what Andy described in the Friday ad as thick in the grip. That is still my favorite user. The Ruby one is a Model Standard thickness and it balance the best of my BCs. The Oreo BC is my lightest and thinnest.
Here is a similar shot with the focus on the center palm swell. In regard to the thick handle on the Blue Jean BC, I heard from a trusted forum friend that Andy has received numerous request for thicker handles to be available from time to time. I dont know if that is true or not, but I have seen photos of one other BC from a recent batch that has similar thick handles. Andy continues impress with his customer service attitude.
Here are some smaller sections of the group:
There is a whole lot of Bushcrafter and Arete goodness on that table. You might have guessed by now that Phillip and I share a love for the rounded pommel models.
After the big group photo session was over , we transitioned to picking up every knife and commenting about our favorite features and/or nuances of each one. While we doing that, we talked about many of our Fiddleback friends who we had dealt with to acquire certain knives. As Phillip said in his opening comment, there are a lot of outstanding folks who frequent this forum. It is fun to trace the genealogy of certain knives and determine that they have made two or three moves in some cases before they came to us.
We started with handling the models that we had no personal experience with. For me, that was the new style 2 Finger Karda and the Big Paw (Bear Paw?) Bushcrafter. For Phillip & Meredith, it was my Patch.
The 2FK has a very thin handle that makes it a great EDC when carried in a pocket sheath. Since I cant carry concealed in California, that model is out for me. The Big Paw is a beautiful knife with a very comfortable handle and nice balance. In the end, I decided that the blade shape is just too pointy for my taste. I know that I am in the minority with that opinion, but I call it as I see it.
Phillip & Meredith found the Patch to be more comfortable than they expected. I think that they might look to add one to their collection down the road.
When we started comparing the Bushcrafters, we had a unique opportunity to experience what hand made really means in terms of variations. Between the two of us we had eighteen BCs to compare. Fourteen (as of today!) are his and four are mine. We have examples in 1/8 tapered, 1/8 SFT, 5/32 tapered, 5/32 SFT, and 3/16 tapered O-1. He also has one 5/32 SFT in CPM 154.
Our feel test results were not always as straightforward as you might think. Every single one felt unique in ways that are difficult to quantify in ways that align with our mathematical minds. Phillips favorite is his Slate Blue one. After holding it, I could find any reason to disagree with his choice. The other two that I was surprised to find that I really like are his canvas Blue Black with the sandblasted handle texture and the 3/16 tapered O-1 with the Buckeye burl handles. I dont think the Blue Black knives sold as well as the regular finish ones. That is probably a shame because based on my handling of Phillips knife, it makes a superior user. The Buckeye burl surprised me by feeling so relatively light and very well balanced. The wood is exceptional also.
Since we were so involved handling knives and talking, we did not get around to taking more pictures of the subjective handling and feel tests before dinner was ready. A Cardinal sin I know!
In order to make it up to everyone, I decided to take some photos at home yesterday to backfill the storyline and provide some visual reference for our observations.
The following knives are my four Bushcrafters:
Here is a pommel view showing the differences in handle thickness going left to right from widest to narrowest. The Blue Jean burlap over natural with racing stripes is my newest one from a couple of weeks ago. It is definitely has the widest handle of all eighteen BCs we compared. My Emerald burlap from January 2014 is what Andy described in the Friday ad as thick in the grip. That is still my favorite user. The Ruby one is a Model Standard thickness and it balance the best of my BCs. The Oreo BC is my lightest and thinnest.
Here is a similar shot with the focus on the center palm swell. In regard to the thick handle on the Blue Jean BC, I heard from a trusted forum friend that Andy has received numerous request for thicker handles to be available from time to time. I dont know if that is true or not, but I have seen photos of one other BC from a recent batch that has similar thick handles. Andy continues impress with his customer service attitude.
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Here is a close up of my thicker ones.
Here is a close up of my standard and thinnest ones.
Here is the bottom view.
To borrow Phillips catchphrase Beyond the BCs, we made the following observations on other models in no particular order.
Each of us has owned a couple of examples of the Woodsman & Leuku models. We both agree that a tapered 5/32 O-1 is the sweet spot for us on these models.
We each have one Terrasaur apiece. This was a model that I disregarded for way too long. Phillips convex grind example feels fabulous. I received mine in trade a few weeks ago to satisfy my desire to have at least one nice scandi in my collection. This is a great must have model in our opinions!!
My favorite knife in Phillips collection has long been the unbelievably beautiful tapered Curly Koa Bushcrafter Sr. I have lusted after that knife many times. I know better that to ask about acquiring it because that knife is never leaving AZ. After our handling and feel test, I have to move that one down to 2nd place in my favorites of his. The #1 spot is now occupied by his tapered Nessmuk with dreamy Buckeye burl and rare Fiddle-textured O-1. That knife is an amazing example of that model including a rounded pommel that we both like.
Prior to dinner, we also spent time talking about our favorite leather benders. Here are some photos and comments on my sheaths.
I have known Talfuchre (a.k.a. Jason) since my Bark River days on another forum. His most common design is a bushcraft style fold-over taco sheath made out of high grade leather and stitching. Last year I talked him into making me a special pancake design with campfire tooling. I am very happy with the way that one turned out.
So far, I have only purchased one sheath direct from Rick Lowe for my Patch in what I call his classic two-tone finish. I have two other ones that came with Camp Nessies that I traded for. The two tone brown one in particular is one of the nicest finished sheaths that I have ever owned.
Here is a close up of my thicker ones.
Here is a close up of my standard and thinnest ones.
Here is the bottom view.
To borrow Phillips catchphrase Beyond the BCs, we made the following observations on other models in no particular order.
Each of us has owned a couple of examples of the Woodsman & Leuku models. We both agree that a tapered 5/32 O-1 is the sweet spot for us on these models.
We each have one Terrasaur apiece. This was a model that I disregarded for way too long. Phillips convex grind example feels fabulous. I received mine in trade a few weeks ago to satisfy my desire to have at least one nice scandi in my collection. This is a great must have model in our opinions!!
My favorite knife in Phillips collection has long been the unbelievably beautiful tapered Curly Koa Bushcrafter Sr. I have lusted after that knife many times. I know better that to ask about acquiring it because that knife is never leaving AZ. After our handling and feel test, I have to move that one down to 2nd place in my favorites of his. The #1 spot is now occupied by his tapered Nessmuk with dreamy Buckeye burl and rare Fiddle-textured O-1. That knife is an amazing example of that model including a rounded pommel that we both like.
Prior to dinner, we also spent time talking about our favorite leather benders. Here are some photos and comments on my sheaths.
I have known Talfuchre (a.k.a. Jason) since my Bark River days on another forum. His most common design is a bushcraft style fold-over taco sheath made out of high grade leather and stitching. Last year I talked him into making me a special pancake design with campfire tooling. I am very happy with the way that one turned out.
So far, I have only purchased one sheath direct from Rick Lowe for my Patch in what I call his classic two-tone finish. I have two other ones that came with Camp Nessies that I traded for. The two tone brown one in particular is one of the nicest finished sheaths that I have ever owned.
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Phillip makes sheaths also. he learned how to do it from Jason's tutorial thread. His craftsmanship is excellent.
I like the design of his longer belt loop that acts a dangler without the need for a separate piece.
Phillip's makers mark is a set of Axis deer antlers. He even incorporated my initials to make these personalized special gifts that I will always cherish.
Phillip makes sheaths also. he learned how to do it from Jason's tutorial thread. His craftsmanship is excellent.
I like the design of his longer belt loop that acts a dangler without the need for a separate piece.
Phillip's makers mark is a set of Axis deer antlers. He even incorporated my initials to make these personalized special gifts that I will always cherish.
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After years of buying and using custom sheaths, I have determined that I like the pancake design the best for my needs. Pancake sheaths are standard fare in bonafide's wheelhouse. Bud has branched out into other styles as well, but I always come back to his well crafted pancake style sheaths.
My favorites are Bud's sheaths that incorporate his amazing one-off or limited edition carvings. I like these because they say something meaningful to me about the knife that rides inside. The Bushcrafter will always be my Alpha Wolf model. Darth Vader's black background and red light saber compliment my black and burgundy burlap Monarch. Darth Vader also symbolizes a transformed character that speaks to my Monarch's modified form. The Bear Claw symbolizes the sharp pointy tip on my Sneaky Pete.
Given the artistic nature of Bud's tooling, along with the quality materials and craftsmanship he provides, his sheaths represent an excellent value to me.
After years of buying and using custom sheaths, I have determined that I like the pancake design the best for my needs. Pancake sheaths are standard fare in bonafide's wheelhouse. Bud has branched out into other styles as well, but I always come back to his well crafted pancake style sheaths.
My favorites are Bud's sheaths that incorporate his amazing one-off or limited edition carvings. I like these because they say something meaningful to me about the knife that rides inside. The Bushcrafter will always be my Alpha Wolf model. Darth Vader's black background and red light saber compliment my black and burgundy burlap Monarch. Darth Vader also symbolizes a transformed character that speaks to my Monarch's modified form. The Bear Claw symbolizes the sharp pointy tip on my Sneaky Pete.
Given the artistic nature of Bud's tooling, along with the quality materials and craftsmanship he provides, his sheaths represent an excellent value to me.
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After all of that activity, it was finally time for dinner. My friends John & Cindy showed up right on time to join us. Phillip pulled the pork while Meredith made fresh tortillas. Adding a little fresh cilantro and cotija cheese on top completed the recipe. We all agreed that this was the best pulled pork we ever had. Moist enough to melt in your mouth with a great smokey flavor that requires no added BBQ sauce to disguise the natural flavor of the meat.
After enjoying this fabulous dinner and interesting conversations around their patio table, it was approaching time to pack up and call it a night.
Before that, I had one more piece of business that I wanted to do. With this many knives in one place, I hoped the we could arrange some kind of trade or sale. When no mutually satisfying trades became apparent. I decided to offer Phillip the chance to buy one of my Evergreen burlap knives since he does not have that color in his Shadetree rainbow yet. I was not sure which one he would pick between my my Patch or Bushcrafter Sr. I thought that he might try the Patch since it is a model that he does not have. In the end, the powerful draw of BC Sr. with its tapered tang, black pins, and lime green liners was too much for him.
It was a great way to end the day. Here is a photo of Phillip smiling with his new knife and me holding a quart of leftover pulled pork to enjoy later.
With that we said our goodbyes and exchanged offers to do it again down the road in CA or AZ.
When we got back to John & Cindys house for the night, we stayed up to the wee hours of the morning talking about what a fantastic day and meal it was. John & Cindy said that Phillip & Meredith are the most interesting and down-to-earth people that they have met in many years. Melissa and I agree completely.
The to-go container of meat was consumed the next morning in our breakfast burritos. Pulled Pork! Its whats for breakfast.
My final comment is that it is are in life to go into something with high expectations and still have the results surpass your wildest dreams. That is what happened to us with The Visit.
Thank you Phillip & Meredith for graciously hosting us. You are both great friends to Melissa and I.
All the best!!
Phil
After all of that activity, it was finally time for dinner. My friends John & Cindy showed up right on time to join us. Phillip pulled the pork while Meredith made fresh tortillas. Adding a little fresh cilantro and cotija cheese on top completed the recipe. We all agreed that this was the best pulled pork we ever had. Moist enough to melt in your mouth with a great smokey flavor that requires no added BBQ sauce to disguise the natural flavor of the meat.
After enjoying this fabulous dinner and interesting conversations around their patio table, it was approaching time to pack up and call it a night.
Before that, I had one more piece of business that I wanted to do. With this many knives in one place, I hoped the we could arrange some kind of trade or sale. When no mutually satisfying trades became apparent. I decided to offer Phillip the chance to buy one of my Evergreen burlap knives since he does not have that color in his Shadetree rainbow yet. I was not sure which one he would pick between my my Patch or Bushcrafter Sr. I thought that he might try the Patch since it is a model that he does not have. In the end, the powerful draw of BC Sr. with its tapered tang, black pins, and lime green liners was too much for him.
It was a great way to end the day. Here is a photo of Phillip smiling with his new knife and me holding a quart of leftover pulled pork to enjoy later.
With that we said our goodbyes and exchanged offers to do it again down the road in CA or AZ.
When we got back to John & Cindys house for the night, we stayed up to the wee hours of the morning talking about what a fantastic day and meal it was. John & Cindy said that Phillip & Meredith are the most interesting and down-to-earth people that they have met in many years. Melissa and I agree completely.
The to-go container of meat was consumed the next morning in our breakfast burritos. Pulled Pork! Its whats for breakfast.
My final comment is that it is are in life to go into something with high expectations and still have the results surpass your wildest dreams. That is what happened to us with The Visit.
Thank you Phillip & Meredith for graciously hosting us. You are both great friends to Melissa and I.
All the best!!
Phil
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Phil:
That was a great shot for Phillip to call......Bushcrafter Sr in the corner pocket !
Awesome get together......thanks for sharing your insights & the photos. So many drool worthy knives in one place......incredible.
Those breakfast burritos looked simply delicious.
Peter
That was a great shot for Phillip to call......Bushcrafter Sr in the corner pocket !
Awesome get together......thanks for sharing your insights & the photos. So many drool worthy knives in one place......incredible.
Those breakfast burritos looked simply delicious.
Peter
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Thanks Luke! I am glad that you appreciate the story and much as the knives.
Thanks for the compliment Cdmayhem.
Thanks Bud! This is the most text that I have ever had in one series of posts. It was technically challenging to to break it up and get it all to post. I felt that it was important to document the story as much as focus on the knives.
Thanks Joe! You are correct that there was a lot of good stuff in one place and it was very cool. Great time for sure.
Thanks Peter! I think that Phillip might be tempted to open a pulled pork Tex Mex restaurant if it means that more BC's or BC Sr.'s will end up in his collection. And yes, the breakfast burritos were awesome.
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The 3 B's of a good life: Buddies, BBQ and Blades (in no particular order)
I already commented on the fantastic assortment of Fiddlebacks, but the real gem is the budding friendship brought into light from a seemingly unlikely source. That is pretty cool.
I already commented on the fantastic assortment of Fiddlebacks, but the real gem is the budding friendship brought into light from a seemingly unlikely source. That is pretty cool.
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Very cool again gents. This may not be the biggest community, but it's composed of mostly outstanding people.
A typical bushcrafter, $300, friendships that Fiddleback knives promote, priceless~:thumbup:
A typical bushcrafter, $300, friendships that Fiddleback knives promote, priceless~:thumbup:
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Excellent posts gentlemen. That was an exceptional report of the experience Phil. I really like the added shots of the handles and sheaths. Thanks for sharing your fun experience with all of us. That is my kind of evening, good food, good friends and lots of knives. I can't wait to meet up with some of the fiddleback crew whether at blade someday, for dinner, or on a camp trip.