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a couple questions about the 940 though.

1) where do i get the 6 sided bits to adjust the pivot screw and move the clip?
2) what are the "factory" grind angles supposed to be? it looks almost like a chisel grind; do they all come like that?
3) recommended sharpening systems? i'm thinking about the spyderco sharp maker with diamond rods i'm just not sure if there's something better out there for the same money. google gives me alot of options but who knows what the quality is like, and thats where you guys come in
 
1. Any hardware store, look for torx bits, get a full range of sizes as you may encounter different sizes on different knives. I bought my set for electronics at radioshack. (you mainly need 6-10)
2. 40* or 20* per side.
3. If you're beginning a good system to get is the sharpmaker. Don't bother with the diamond rods, just use what they give ya. They work just fine. I get hair popping/splitting edges with mine, i use it for touch ups now. For bigger jobs i use a benchstone.
 
1. Go to a reputable hardware store and look for Torx drivers with an assortment of small bits. I got a good one at Home Depot.

2. Most factory grinds are attrocious. Based on my experience owning over half a dozen of their blades, Benchmade is hit-or-miss. It is my opinion that they scrimp on factory sharpening to make sure money goes into quality materials and other assembly issues, the reasoning being that they know everyone will have to sharpen their knife sooner or later.

3. Sharpmaker is very good!! Plain and simple. Looks like Benchmade switched to S30V blade steel on the 940, in which case you would be OK with the stock medium and fine sharpmaker rods. But you would want to get the diamond rods if you got one with a D2 blade. In general the diamond rods make reprofiling go faster, but I've changed up the bevel angle on plenty of knives with just the medium grit brown spyderco stones. You have to scrub 'em with Comet cleanser every 100 strokes or so to keep 'em from loading up, but it is definitely doable. then once you are set with a good edge bevel you can maintain sharpness with no really big hassle.

In your case, I would save the money on the diamond rods since you are really only going to be using them ONCE, and spend the cash on some ultra-fine rods for the sharpmaker. You'll spend some time redoing the primary edge bevel with the brown rods, so for a while you might wish you had the diamonds. BUT with the UF rods you get a whole other level of sharpness that the fine rods can't begin to give you, and you'll use them more than just once.
 
alright, i wasn't sure if they were just standard torx or something special

and don't bother with the diamonds? sweet, makes it cheaper lol...

as far as the edge goes, maybe i'm ill informed but [at least at the tip] the two sides are nowhere near equal
 
yup, just regular Torx bits. I would recommend one of those 8-in-1 Torx drivers that have interchageable bits. They give a wide range of bit sizes, which means you are bound to get the right size bit (super important, lest you strip out the screw head), and they're fairly inexpensive.

The tip is usually where you will best see the effects of an off-center grind. the sides of a grind bevel could be at the same relative angle, but if the edge is ground too far to one side you will see one side of the bevel that looks wider than the other. OR the sides might be at different angles altogether. OR it could be a mix of both along the length of the edge, which is why I say get the Sharpmaker. It'll allow you to even out the edge bevels a bit, and will give equal angles on each side of the blade.

The thing to keep in mind here is that you will have to take more metal off of one side than the other in order to bring the edge back towards the center of the blade. So that whole business of counting strokes on each side, and doing the same # each side is out the window. Use the 30 degree edge bevel setting on the Sharpmaker. Be patient, go slow and inspect your work frequently along the way.

On that note, do you have a cheap knife you can practice with? There's nothing worse than going too far while reshaping the edge bevel and permanently screwing things up by taking off too much metal, especially with such a beloved knife.

Best of luck.
-nate
 
thanks! and i do have the d2 version... lol

i tried to get a picture of it but i couldn't get anything in focus. cell phone pics and all [even though it is an 8 mp camera :mad: ]

torx, sweet. i was terrified there was some sort of bm special that i had to pay an absurd amount for. i love how the blade has 0 play either horizontally and vertically; will that change if i adjust the pivot to be able to flick it like i see in the youtube videos? lol... looks fun :p

and thankfully i have a gerber paraframeI thats just begging to be experimented on, so we're set there. unfortunately for me, the combo of d2 and an almost chisel grind on the edge [seriously looks like that, no joke] it sounds like i might spend quite some time sharpening it...
 
I love the Torx Tool from Kershaw. Its got the torx bits you need (which are kept inside the unit itself) and even a tiny Phillips head. And its so small you can attach it to your keychain. I've seen them as low as 5 bucks too.

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IMHO the diamond rods are a must have with the sharp maker. Especially when your doing re-profiling. If I were you I would buy them. It will make sharpening much easier on you, and will save you lots of time and frustration.
 
SpartanSaint said:
alright, i wasn't sure if they were just standard torx or something special

and don't bother with the diamonds? sweet, makes it cheaper lol...

as far as the edge goes, maybe i'm ill informed but [at least at the tip] the two sides are nowhere near equal
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youre talking about the bevel, not the initial edge. Most factory bevels are pretty ugly, i have one or two with even bevels lol
 
You can purchase a dmt sharpening system along with your sharpmaker. It is similar to a lansky. I use one to reprofile primary bevels on all of my knives. The key is to take it slow. D2 is hard stuff but I have had great success with my dmt system. One will run you about 25 bucks if I remember correctly.
 
I got the BM torx driver set. Around here I live in a small area no one had torx bits. It was a great purchase. I have used it many times over. As for the system I would suggest the sharpmaker. Some say to use sandpaper and not buy the diamond rods but when I use SP I scratch the heck outta my blades. Don't know why.
 
Don't see it mentioned here...the two Torx drivers most used on Benchmades are T-10 for the pivot and T-6 for both handle and clip screws. It does pay to have the other sizes as some of the older models use T-7, for example.

Benchmade, like others, hand do the grinds on the edges...but I own an Edge Pro Apex 4 and the 24 degree setting works beautifully on most if not all models including the 940 - which is a great knife.

Hope that helps.
 
jonnyt16 said:
I love the Torx Tool from Kershaw. Its got the torx bits you need (which are kept inside the unit itself) and even a tiny Phillips head. And its so small you can attach it to your keychain. I've seen them as low as 5 bucks too.
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The kershaw tool kit is great, and if you switch out the phillips head bit and put in a T6 bit, you can unscrew all the smaller torx bits, like what spyderco uses, and benchmade has on their smaller screws
 
hmm, thanks for the advice guys. i borrowed my buddy's torx to get it adjusted right and then lok tited it to tide me over till i can get my hands on a set. it now flicks open, but won't gravity fall [to satisfy state laws] and there is almost no noticeable blade play [something i'm fairly anal about... just bugs me]

i love it. still shaves arm hair, but i do need to fix those bevels [thank you for the correct term]

couple questions though.
1) would getting custom scales void the warranty? [not a huge fan of the anodized aluminum, would like some ti or cf]
2) where do i get a different clip? this one is ugly imho and would like something that sits better [read lower] in my pocket

thanks everyone for your awesome replies, i plan on getting some quality pictures of it soon
 
SpartanSaint said:
hmm, thanks for the advice guys. i borrowed my buddy's torx to get it adjusted right and then lok tited it to tide me over till i can get my hands on a set. it now flicks open, but won't gravity fall [to satisfy state laws] and there is almost no noticeable blade play [something i'm fairly anal about... just bugs me]

i love it. still shaves arm hair, but i do need to fix those bevels [thank you for the correct term]

couple questions though.
1) would getting custom scales void the warranty? [not a huge fan of the anodized aluminum, would like some ti or cf]
2) where do i get a different clip? this one is ugly imho and would like something that sits better [read lower] in my pocket

thanks everyone for your awesome replies, i plan on getting some quality pictures of it soon
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1. Depends what you need to warranty it for. lol. But finding scales to fit and a lock to match and stuff will be tricky.
2. Do you not like the painted clip? E-mail benchmade and tell them your ascent pocket clip got damaged or something, that clip is flat black and when it wears in looks awesome. It should fit that, as i believe it takes the same clip as the griptilian as well. To get a lower riding clip you may be able to find one online as long as its a universal fit for benchmades. benchmade will send out a brand new clip for the "ascent" as well as the screws for it though for free.
 
no kidding huh... and what do you mean, need it warranteed for? i mean. like if something goes wrong, i don't wanna be stuck up a crick with a $150 pile of worthless ness

and i figured i'd have to get in touch with a custom maker and have them do that, not even try to swap stock for stock, though i know there was a limited edition of the 940 in ti, so how might i possibly get my hands on some of those??

thats interesting about the pocket clip though. free sounds nice... i just don't like it at all. the blade has a certain elegance to it, and then you flip it over and its this massive, plain, black clip. just :barf: do you have pictures of the clip you mentioned? or possibly of other options i could try to scam them out of :D
 
look up benchmade ascent. The pocket clip is matte black, almost has a powdery feel to it, but when it wears it looks really nice. What I meant by warranty is, you'd have to find scales to match the lock, and I believe the 940 is an axis lock and benchmade doesn't send out springs for them, so if you break one they may blame it on you due to aftermarket scales. Try for the clip though, they're sweet.
 
just did some more looking, i like the griptillian clip. can i have some details on how i would procure one from bm?
 
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