Arrowheads

R.A.T. said:
You would think as small as they are they should see for no more than a nickel, eh? There is a lot of work in these things. You may not believe this but Rowen is actually losing 2 bucks on every one of these they sell us. No joke. We are trying to do the arrowhead so everyone can afford them and we plan to make up Rowen's losses with other product.
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that is so Cool :D
 
thanks for the clarification - I wondered how they were making anything on those.
"Loss leader" makes more sense.

AH-1 the ESEE gateway sharp thang. Welcome to your new addiction.
(try the Kool-aid, it's good - and good for you!)
 
Yeah, if you itemized it you would have to count the engraving, the coating, the grinding/sharpening, and most places you are talking 15 bucks minimum each for those services.
 
R.A.T. said:
You would think as small as they are they should see for no more than a nickel, eh? There is a lot of work in these things. You may not believe this but Rowen is actually losing 2 bucks on every one of these they sell us. No joke. We are trying to do the arrowhead so everyone can afford them and we plan to make up Rowen's losses with other product.
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I don't think that you shouldn't be able to make a profit and the fact that you aren't doesn't necessarliy mean that ROWEN/ESEE in this case is doing us buyers a friendly favor by producing a new product. It's just business and some products often need to be introduced at a marginal loss in order to take the overall business further. Take high-end fashion businesses like Gucci, Prada or Versace for instance: they often sell their highly-priced limited clothing lines at minimal profit as they reap the benefits of their brand name by making serious cash when tossing out readily available perfumes and accessories to the masses, who can't afford the clothes but still want to feel expensive in some way. I'm not saying that ESEE and ROWEN are following that pattern, merely that nobody goes into business to loose money.

cpmorgan said:
If you think these are expensive do a search for trade points or traditional archery arrowheads and you will see these are a good deal.
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Since we can't compare them to antiques that aren't sold in the store (I couldn't find comparable ones... —help?) one would have to be fair and compare them with what's on the market; which I had already done and yes, most of the simpler ones start at around 20 bucks — but they aren't at all comparable since those are way more complicated to produce than this cut, coated and sharpened slab of metal that the AH-1 is. If you're gonna compare them then questions arise; like, what sound signature does it have and how well is the AH-1 balanced, for instance? How does it fly compared to those "real" arrowheads? So, I think it's a bit expensive at 18.20 USD or even at 12.95 USD (http://www.the-knife-connection.com/rc-ah1-arrowhead.html), but that's fine. I wasn't complaining and it's just my opinion. Seriously, making similar arrowheads by hand is way cheaper, but I'd still buy 3 of them simply because I want good stuff in my kit and my time is more valuable to me compared to what I have to gain from spending a day in the garage filing pieces of metal into shape.
 
What? What is in the air or water this week? It seems as though people are flipping out or simply arguing for the sake of arguing...
 
Huh?! What do you mean by that?! You callin' me a troll or something?
 
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stoffi said:
Huh?! What do you mean by that?! You callin' me a troll or something?
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We've just had alot of disagreement and arguments on the forum this week surrounding the name change, don't sweat it.

You really can't compare RAT/ESEE to a standard business model, it just doesn't work. Jeff and Mike don't run this little gig like a standard, profit driven business.

I think once the arrowheads hit the shelves people will see the value and quality of them. They are really nicely made and thicker than you would realize. Typical Rowen quality and worth every penny to the folks who'll use them.
 
Don't want to break any forum rules. Is it ok to post a link to outside sources? I can say if you look at the traditional archery suppliers you should be able to find trade points. I am not talking about antiques, but modern made ones. Edited to add I did not read the full product description and it is a six pack that is not meant for hunting but display.

We should be careful about fixating on these as only being for arrows. An arrowhead made specifically for arrows probably would be better for archery, but would lack the versatility these provide. We could buy dedicated broadheads, that would be more expensive in many cases, that would likely be far less durable for survival needs. These should hold up to being used as spear, trap, and tool points much better.

Mr. Rearic I would like to slightly hijack this thread by saying I have enjoyed your website for years, and would appreciate it if you would continue your blog. :D
 
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Hey Buddy, I had a computer blow up summer of 2008 and replaced that with another, spare, computer I had in reserve. Had to get Dreamweaver again, which is a fairly expensive deal. That PC lasted a month, just a virus, POOF. I updated the links page of my website and put links up for Jeff and Derrick over at KSF and had ANOTHER crash. So, I'm just muddling my way through to get another Dreaweaver CD then I will update the website.

The blog, Survival Lab? I started that just to keep me a bit sharp and be "out there" because I couldn't update the website for a time. I've been a lazy pig and neglecting that. I am about to be snowed in starting sometime tomorrow, so, I will be putting some more stuff on the blog and maybe going out and digging into the side of a large mound of snow. :D
 
Blogs are easier to read with my short atten............What were we talking about? :D

I don't care where you write just write. :thumbup:

Maybe you could do a review of these AH-1's. Go make some tools and traps. So what if you do it inside because you are snowed in. My wife loves it when I build stuff in the living room. :rolleyes:
 
R.A.T. said:
You would think as small as they are they should see for no more than a nickel, eh? There is a lot of work in these things. You may not believe this but Rowen is actually losing 2 bucks on every one of these they sell us. No joke. We are trying to do the arrowhead so everyone can afford them and we plan to make up Rowen's losses with other product.
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R.A.T You are helping people! And I want to thankyou,you keep people coming and happy with the product,I'am in sales and that Big "Custom service again THANK YOU!!!!:thumbup:
 
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