"Ascent" versus "Endura"

What is the "CHEAPEST" place on the "net" (or which retail stores) to buy these knives???

1) Spyderco
2) Benchmade
 
FWIW, the Endura is the first folder I've ever owned. To this day, it is still my constant companion. I feel very comfortable with this knife after all this time.

I know I'm guilty of being a purist, but the only AFCK variation I like is the original full-size AFCK. Anything less is just a commercial bastardization of the original. IMHO.
 
AFCK vs. Endura? Apples vs. oranges, IMO. If you want a better comparison, then you should consider the Spydie Military vs. the AFCK. When you do that, however, you raise the price range up ~ $30-$50.

Actually, I believe there was a thread not too long ago on the very topic of the AFCK vs. the Military. You might want to do a search.
 
JoHnYKwSt , I checked out the prices on the three web sites you gave. I compared the Spyderco prices on all three versus what I can pay at the stores here locally. "Discount knives" and the "Knife outlet" should be ashamed for ripping people off on the net. The "mjsknives" company had very good prices. To get people to buy knives on the net they have to be offered at a price which is less than one would pay at your local store in person. Who are they fooling?? When you buy on the net , the buyer has to pay shipping & wait for the merchandise to arrive. These net companies have to beat the prices that are available to the real consumer at their local STORES. The only net company that I can endorse is http://www.mjsknives.com/
 
Oh here we go again,

Not so fast Harikari. There's a pricing guideline set by Spyderco not a long time ago. Call or e-mail each dealer and ask the price for a specific model. I bought knives from the dealers you mentioned above, and I believe the difference in price is not that great. Some dealers will also match price, so take your time and shop around some more. Here's a link to dealers list: http://www.bladeforums.com/links/html/gp10.html . Hope this helps.


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Reynaert

 
Discount Knives is pretty much the cheapest I've found. Bayou La Fourche is very close, better on some things. The Knife Outlet is really good on all of them as well. They are all forced by Spyderdo (oops, I mean, Spyderco) to advertise at least a certain price. E-mail them, and you will find a lesser price. Additionally, if you read the small print at Discount Knives, I think he says how much less than that marked that he actually charges. Finally, don't forget The Knife Center. They have really, REALLY good prices on the Spyderco's as well. You might have to ask for the real price, but the prices are good. I just got my Standard from them. Great knife, great price.

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Outlaw_Dogboy

 
OBTW, I have it on good authority that the Spyderco Endura was selected as the knife to be included in the survival vest for military V-22 pilots. FYI, FWIW.

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Outlaw_Dogboy

 
OD, that'd be the Osprey wouldn't it?

I wonder how the selection process went for the Endura, or whether it was just a show of hands ... couldn't be all that many V-22 pilots.

And on-topic... I have dealt with Discount Knives and their pricing is very reasonable. Don't take posted prices at their face value, and do try to contact the seller. Good communication skills and a willingness to be flexible are qualities for sellers and buyers alike.
 
OD, that'd be the Osprey wouldn't it?
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Correct.

I wonder how the selection process went for the Endura, or whether it was just a show of hands ... couldn't be all that many V-22 pilots.
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A lot of the crew (not just pilots, since there are load-masters, observers, etc, involved. Also included maintenance guys, I think) got to try out the Endura, the Military, I think a few MT's, several Benchmades (including auto's), a couple of others I guess. Part of the selection process included whether the knife would fit into the alloted space in the survival gear, and/or the flight suit. Military didn't fair well there. Not the least of concern (OK, probably the most concern) was the cost. For the money, the Endura offered the most knife, and fit where it had to. If I recall and understood everything correctly. All this happened in another place, so I heard it second hand. Of course there was a lot of other testing and paperwork involved, to make sure that all the correct legal channels were accessed, etc. (enough caveats there?
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[This message has been edited by Outlaw_Dogboy (edited 03 November 1999).]
 
Sales guy at gun store showing me knives today said "his concealed weapon permit covers his knife carry over 3" inches" (he said including his asp & pepper spray). I don't think so. My concealed weapons permit clearly says "Firearms License" across the top. He said blade length under 3" legal in GA. , over 3" covered by his permit. I don't think so.

Who prefers the "Endura" over the "Delica" or vice versa???
 
What is the difference between the regular Endura and the Endura with the ATS55 blade? Better steel ?????

What is the difference between the Delica and the Delica (2) ?????
 
Let me see if I can get this right. The Endura/Delica originals (with integrated clip) had either G-2/GIN-1 (same thing) or AUS-8 steel blades. The Endura/Delica II series had the ss handles, and AUS-6 steel blades (a step down from the GIN-1 and AUS-8, in terms of carbon content). On Spyderco's steel chart, GIN-1 comes in at 0.90 % carbon. AUS-8 comes in at 0.70 to 0.75% carbon, while AUS-6 comes in at 0.55 to 0.65% carbon. The Endura/Delica '98 series (the current version) has ATS-55 steel, a step up from all of the above. Very similar to ATS-34, but with less molybdenum. Specially made for knife steel. 1.00% carbon (versus 1.05% carbon for ATS-34), again according to Spyderco's steel chart.

I would prefer the ATS-55 over any of the other Endura/Delica steels (well, unless you are REALLY worried about corrosion resistance), and would prefer the Endura over the Delica if it were to be my only knife.

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Outlaw_Dogboy

 
I really like the ATS-55 steel. Of course, it won't resist rust as well as AUS-6 or 8, but it takes and holds a very good edge.

As far as the Endura vs. Delica, I love both, but find for daily carry, I prefer the Delica, as it's more conveniently sized for me. Now if I'm doing something where I need more blade, I will choose the Endura. I would probably recommend getting both, and in the '98 versions.
Jim
 
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