Atlantic salt questions

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Havnt been on here in awhile but I have a couple questions . I told my Co worker to pick up an atlantic salt for work . We are local 40 structural ironworkers in nyc. We mostly cut inch thick pieces of manilla rope for tag lines . I thought a full se blade be good for him being he doesn't know how to sharpen . Well time came for his blade to be sharpened so I took it home today with me on a rain day . First question , when did they put the cut out in the frn ? I'm guessing to reduce weight but it's a liner less frn handle is that necessary to reduce weight on an already light knife or did he grab a fake ? Second, he had rolled the front tooth over. When I tried to strop it back it just broke off . I thought h1 was a soft steel so that suprised me . Is it just that the edge is harder on a work hardened steel ? Basically did my boy get a fake or am I over paranoid with the rash of fakes out there .
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I've seen one in pictures before with the shackle key/vent before...might just be an early run. Hopefully someone who knows for sure can chime in. And serrated H1 is very hard at the edge, and softer through to the spine, so the tooth would be one of the hardest parts of the blade.
 
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I was thinking it might be newer gen because it has the hour glass clip and it's screwed not pinned but I just never saw this scale cut out
 
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I found one on the website depicted in this image and they are an official Spyderco Dealer as per Spyderco's dealer website. So I am guessing this might not be a fake. Contacting Spyderco directly would yield the correct answer.

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Given that the only constant a Spyderco is change, I can't be absolutely certain but, if I had to bet, I'd bet against it being real.

I can say with certainty that the earliest Atlantic Salts did not have a vent. They did not have the large H-1 logo on the blade either, but that did replace the "bug" logo a couple years later...

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I can say with certainty that neither the picture on Spyderco's website, or the illustrations in the 2015 catalog, or those in any other catalog from the past 5 years, show a vent on the Atlantic Salt. Nor do any of the pictures of those I see for sale on eBay at the moment.
 

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The early Rescues did, I have an orange one with an integral clip. The early Atlantics never had it. I'm still thinking fake.
 
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I seem to recall an FRN early Mariner that came out before or after the all stainless steel Mariner, both of which had the drying vent, and were the same size as the Atlantic Salt.
 
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I seem to recall an FRN early Mariner that came out before or after the all stainless steel Mariner, both of which had the drying vent, and were the same size as the Atlantic Salt.
Your memory is faulty.

There has never been an FRN Mariner. The stainless Mariner was Spyderco's second knife and was introduced in 1982. The earliest of them lack the drying vent, but all the later ones, up to and including the all stainless H-1 Mariner Slat, had them. The original version of the C14 Rescue, which was FRN and did have a drying vent, was not introduced until 1990. It may have been billed as a "lighter, less expensive version of the Mariner", but was never called a Mariner.

The vented C14 Rescues also had the integral FRN clip. The vent disappeared in 1998 when the C14 switched to the barrel bolt clip handle. That handle has been refined a couple times, both before and after the C14 started sharing it with the Atlantic Salt, but the vent never came back.

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Here's the early Rescue I was referring to, but it's certainly not an Atlantic, I'm almost certain that one in the first post has never been made by Spyderco.

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Your memory is faulty.

There has never been an FRN Mariner. The stainless Mariner was Spyderco's second knife and was introduced in 1982. The earliest of them lack the drying vent, but all the later ones, up to and including the all stainless H-1 Mariner Slat, had them. The original version of the C14 Rescue, which was FRN and did have a drying vent, was not introduced until 1990. It may have been billed as a "lighter, less expensive version of the Mariner", but was never called a Mariner.

The vented C14 Rescues also had the integral FRN clip. The vent disappeared in 1998 when the C14 switched to the barrel bolt clip handle. That handle has been refined a couple times, both before and after the C14 started sharing it with the Atlantic Salt, but the vent never came back.

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Yes, that's the knife I remember. I'll try not to forget to take my Aricept next time I post.
 

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Call and ask. It could be a recent change.
 

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Rolf- it's been new in the box for the past 25 years and it's going to remain that way :D. Nice try, though!
 
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Wow, Google is fast. I searched Google for "Spyderco Atlantic Salt" and clicked on images. This pic already shows up near the bottom of the page. It's the only pic that shows a Salt with a vent, BTW.


It would be interesting to see what the Mother Ship says about a previous or current model having the vent.
 
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Are the Bastids even making fake Pacific Salts? Haven't seen any fake Salt series knives.
 
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Anyone check the warriors and wonders.com picture that I posted and visited the page?

*Now with shackle key slot in handle for boating

and they are an official dealer of Spyderco, hence I dont believe this is a fake.

Heck. I just emailed them to ask. Will let everyone know what they reply.
 
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Completely missed your post, Marthinus. Yep, you're absolutely correct. I don't know if it's OK to link directly to their site so I'll leave it to everybody else's Google Fu. Apologies for my oversight.
 
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