Thanks for all the good info, and so fast! Well i got the itch today so i rigged up a makeshift forge, with a small bbq pit, a little plate some pipe and a hair drier. All i had was an old lawn mower blade so i cut it and heated it to non magnetic..then i let it cool down slowly. Ive been doing a bit of grinding on it to rough it in. Should i still be concerned with "bluing" Also the piece was really too short is there any way to braze a round tang to it later. If not it is still ok cuz i need all the practice i can get.