attaching spacer material

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Terry_Dodson

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I just ordered some handle screws (brass) and spacer material (black and red) from Pops Knive's and Supplies. I have never used any spacing material before. What is the best way to attach it? Do i just glue it to the wood (hard curly maple) before i start shaping and drilling? What glue would be best? I have been using 2-ton epoxy on most of mine. shoould i drill extra holes thru the spacer material to let the glue attach directly to the wood also? I am rehandleing an old butcher knife ( my fater-in-laws father's knife made from an old saw blade) for my father-in-law and want it to look good and be on extra well since it will be a real user butcher knife. Any help would sure be appreciated.
 
Terry,
Make sure your spacer material is clean (acetone) and scuff it up a bit. Same treatment to the wood. I use loctite 325 now but had decent luck with devcon on spacer material in the past. As you mentioned drilling through the spacer material into the wood is something I do always. You can glue everything up at once but it is much easier to glue your spacer to your wood and then work from there. The spacer material gets VERY slick with glue and can be a PITA if you are doing several pieces at once.
Matt
 
Thanks, that is what i kinda thought but wanted to make sure since it is has a lot of sentimental value to it.
 
I do not mean to insult any one, but 2 ton, devcon products should never be considered for custom knifes, a custom knife deserves much better. I learned many years ago that if I want a quality end product that it will have to made with quality products. Price is not a consideration in my knife componets, only the best is exceptable. 2 Ton does not have the adhesion qualitys that I desire. The Locktite products and AcraGlass are very good. I personally use either Tap Plastic Marine epoxies or their 4 to 1. The marine is not quite as strong as the 4 to 1 but is water clear.
Be sure to clean all parts before sanding with a top line acetone or alcohol, then rough sand and clean again. Handle with clean latex gloves (no finger prints)Be sure surfaces mate well, no bowing or rounded surfaces. Use light clamping force, let the epoxies partially set up (enough to hold things in place then do your clean up with acetone. Leave in the clamps for at least 8 hours.
Leon Pugh
 
Thanks Leon, It doesn't insult me at all if someone can tell me a better way of doing something. I just thought that the Devcon 2-Ton epoxy was supposed to be one of the strongest epoxies i could use. Is the Tap Plastic Marine epoxies or their 4 to 1 something i should be able to find at a local Marine (Boat) store?
 
Terry_Dodson said:
Thanks Leon, It doesn't insult me at all if someone can tell me a better way of doing something. I just thought that the Devcon 2-Ton epoxy was supposed to be one of the strongest epoxies i could use. Is the Tap Plastic Marine epoxies or their 4 to 1 something i should be able to find at a local Marine (Boat) store?
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You need some serious glue wars reading....NEVER use Devcon 2 Ton, throw it away...
http://www.knifenetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27463

my apologies for cross forum link posting...
 
Search on here for glue wars, too. Tracy, Sando, and others did quite a bit of testing.
 
Tracy Thanks for that link I really do appreciate all the work you guys did on that testing. It will really help a lot. I was reading thru some of that thread and got a bit confused.

"AND NOW FINALLY….


For wood handle scales to metal:
Recommended:
Gorilla Glue beat out every other adhesive in every test
Loctite E-120hp
K&G epoxy
Golf shafting epoxy by Golfsmith
Acraglass

Avoid:
Anaerobic curing adhesives
JB Weld

Full tang handles:
Acraglass which was designed almost exactly for this kind of application.

Avoid:
Gorilla Glue or any other polyurethane expanding type glue.

For metal to metal
Recommended:
Loctite Speedbonder 324
JB Weld
PC7

Avoid:
Any CA’s, ie superglues. These have no place in knife making anywhere except to fill flaws in handle material.

For metal to man made materials (ie, G10, micarta, etc)
Recommended:
Loctite 324 Speedbonder or any of the overall use adhesives.

For overall use:
Loctite E-120hp
K&G Epoxy
Golfsmith Golf shafting epoxy
Acraglass (Acraweld is different and was not tested. Acragel was tested and failed)
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Tracy Mickley"

I am wanting to put 2 slabs on a butcher knife with some spacer material between the wood and knife. So should gorilla glue be good for this or should i use shafting epoxy (i am looking for something i can get locally and can find both of these here).
 
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