Yeah, what Mike said. If you check closely you'll see knives by Turber;s BOSS knives,Shane Sibert,Pat Crawford,Mike Franklin (legally obtained...at one time don't know anymore ?), Liong Mah design, What might be a Larry Davidson folder (not sure, hard to tell) and yes...one of my Derespina Kermbit's as well. Screw these people at every chance ! Do what you can, call them complain. When you see them at knife shows, let them know they are not wanted there. If you hear or see anyone heading to theirtable ata show, "pssst, don't buy that CRAP !", "they suck, are rip off artists and their work and materials are/is inferior". In other words, actively persuade people from spending their money on this junk ! You get what you pay for and knife enthusiasts or potential knife enthusiasts (you know, the new guys/gals out there that may one day have the $ and appreciaction for a real knife, a real tool, a real work of art) may need to be schooled. We are the ones to show them. Don't let them spend their hardearned $on junk ! Junk that's been based on real knives, made with soul, blood sweat and tears !, with fine materials and attention to detail ! Not Knock off bull crap made for pennies ripping off copywrites out of country and/ or stealing intillectual property. Let's all say something and say it LOUD !.....RDT