Autistic man lives on frogs, roots during 3-week ordeal in Utah desert

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Here's more of a sad fact to consider on the subject. Had the dog not left him the man may have been forced to kill and eat his own pet in order to survive. I can't imagine the guilt that would be felt over having to perform such an act, even if ultimately it would spare the dog the ultimate fate of dying from starvation and dehydration.
 
Charlie_K said:
Here's more of a sad fact to consider on the subject. Had the dog not left him the man may have been forced to kill and eat his own pet in order to survive. I can't imagine the guilt that would be felt over having to perform such an act, even if ultimately it would spare the dog the ultimate fate of dying from starvation and dehydration.
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I would starve to death before I ate my dog.
 
I'd eat my dog, sleep in its pelt, and be grateful for it. Sounds like the guy needs to be in assisted living.
 
Halberdier, don't defend him. If he hasn't learned anything about people different than himself yet in life, he deserves everything he gets. That's nothing to do with political correctness, and everything with being a decent human being.
Posted in both threads, must be mad.
 
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Skimo said:
Sounds like the guy needs to be in assisted living.
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I don't think so. If you look at his parents quotes - they said he had hiked and packed on his own dozens of times. He made a few bad decisions. He hiked without his gear in a place that he was not used to.

In fact, this sounds like the majority of the rescue missions you hear performed on the general public.

But this is all speculation.

TF
 
Alright, pain me though it does, I owe some people (maybe everybody) an apology. I am sorry I made a flippant joke about an Autistic person. I don't know any autistic people, and I don't know anything about the condition. But I do realize that some people do, and I can sympathize that it is not funny when someone comes along and makes a totally flippant and inappropriate joke at their expense. So, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have posted that pic, and I shouldn't have made the comments I did.
 
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Alright, pain me though it does, I owe some people (maybe everybody) an apology. I am sorry I made a flippant joke about an Autistic person. I don't know any autistic people, and I don't know anything about the condition. But I do realize that some people do, and I can sympathize that it is not funny when someone comes along and makes a totally flippant and inappropriate joke at their expense. So, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have posted that pic, and I shouldn't have made the comments I did.
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It shouldn't pain you at all, you should have used your head in the first place and not posted the picture in the first place. Think about what you are posting and who may be reading it. Also think about how you are portraying yourself when you post, even your "apology" comes off as being arrogant and self serving with little to no sincerity, so I doubt that anyone will accept it.
 
My apology was sincere, unky_gumbi. And you are right, I should not have posted the picture in the first place. And of course it pains me. I don't like admitting I am wrong. But I realize that I am wrong here, and to anyone I offended with the picture I posted or the comments I made and to anyone with special needs family or friends, I am sorry unconditionally and I won't do it again, and I'll be more sensitive about special-needs issues from now on. You say you doubt anyone will accept that. Maybe they won't, but I offer my sincere apology nonetheless.

As for you, frankly your comments are not credible here. You complain about me all the time everywhere you can on BF because I correct what I think is pretty bad advice you give sometimes in the shaving threads.
 
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My apology was sincere, unky_gumbi. And you are right, I should not have posted the picture in the first place. And of course it pains me. I don't like admitting I am wrong. But I realize that I am wrong here, and to anyone I offended with the picture I posted or the comments I made and to anyone with special needs family or friends, I am sorry unconditionally and I won't do it again, and I'll be more sensitive about special-needs issues from now on. You say you doubt anyone will accept that. Maybe they won't, but I offer my sincere apology nonetheless.

As for you, frankly your comments are not credible here. You complain about me all the time everywhere you can on BF because I correct what I think is pretty bad advice you give sometimes in the shaving threads.
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You can read my reply here where it belongs
 
"And of course it pains me. I don't like admitting I am wrong." Magnaminous_G, that's not an apology. It's still all about you. If you want to talk about you, go to Whine & Cheese, please.
 
I am an avid hiker and I worked with developmentally challenged adults at a day hab. There are many degrees on the Autism spectrum. For instance Temple Grandin. She is a doctor of animal science and professor at Colorado State University. She is autistic. I had the privilege of meeting her. She is more intelligent than 98% of the people that post here. I also worked with people at the day hab who were non verbal. Could not comprehend what a toilet is for. One guy I worked with had an aneurysm at age seven;missing part of his brain and skullplate, wheelchair bound had one arm that sort of worked. A feeding tube and was not allowed to drink any liquids because it might go into his lungs. I would make Dr. Pepper ice cubes for him just so he could have a taste. He had an Epson speech pack, a lap top that he could type and it would speech for him. One day he was rather down. He typed and I still have the print out of it "The scariest part of life is 7. Shunt in shunt in." I had no idea what he meant. I asked the RN what he saying. He has a tube that runs from his brain to his stomach so his brain does not over pressurize and well he was 7 when that happened. Anyone want make fun of him? Then there was Peter he has cerebral palsy. The only thing s he could move was his head, eyes and tongue. His arms and legs were strapped into his wheelchair. He had a tray on his chair that he used to communicate. Flick his tongue to tell you which column and row. Then you could see what he wanted to communicate. Five five meant he wanted to spell something. Anyone want to make fun of him?

I have two college degrees and and I am fortunate to have a good family. But I can with out a doubt say that what made a better person is the time I worked at the day hab.

ETA:I cried when I quit that job, the only time I cried leaving a job. After I left I was an advocate, which meant the DMR had to contact me anytime his individual service plan was going to be changes and had a say in any medical decisions, for my favorite guy there Jimmy. He had Neurofibromatosis and the tumors were growing in his brain. He died a few years back. Want to make fun of him?
 
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I am an avid hiker and I worked with developmentally challenged adults at a day hab. There are many degrees on the Autism spectrum. For instance Temple Grandin. She is a doctor of animal science and professor at Colorado State University. She is autistic. I had the privilege of meeting her. She is more intelligent than 98% of the people that post here. I also worked with people at the day hab who were non verbal. Could not comprehend what a toilet is for. One guy I worked with had an aneurysm at age seven;missing part of his brain and skullplate, wheelchair bound had one arm that sort of worked. A feeding tube and was not allowed to drink any liquids because it might go into his lungs. I would make Dr. Pepper ice cubes for him just so he could have a taste. He had an Epson speech pack, a lap top that he could type and it would speech for him. One day he was rather down. He typed and I still have the print out of it "The scariest part of life is 7. Shunt in shunt in." I had no idea what he meant. I asked the RN what he saying. He has a tube that runs from his brain to his stomach so his does not over pressurize and well he was 7 when that happened. Anyone want make fun of him? Then there was Peter he has cerebral palsy. The only thing s he could move was his head, eyes and tongue. His arms and legs were strapped into his wheelchair. He had a tray on his chair that he used to communicate. Flick his tongue to tell you which column and row. Then you could see what he wanted to communicate. Five five meant he wanted to spell something. Anyone want to make fun of him?

I have two college degrees and and I am fortunate to have a good family. But I can with out a doubt say that what made a better person is the time I worked at the day hab.
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I have an aunt that is downs syndrome and a severely retarded cousin, don't know what you would call his infliction as I only had brief encounters with him while I was a child and he lived in a home. The times he was home with his family I do remember him having feelings and the want and need to communicate. You could also see the love he had for his parents and siblings. My aunt while able to live with assistance wont go into a home so right now she splits her time between one of her sisters here in Ontario, and the another sister in Nova Scotia. She to show her emotions and understanding of what is going on around her. Just because they have a handicap should not make them the target of peoples jokes, they still feel just like you or I. Both are still alive BTW Anna would be in her mid 50s and Garry would be in his late 50s to early 60s
 
We have a cousin with a severe handicap. When he was born, the doctor told his parents to send him to an institution, since he would never become fully human. They sneered and took him home. He looked pretty good in his teens, his dad had him lifting weights. His speech was slurred, but otherwise fine.

There's a Down's syndrome girl around here, I wave and smile when I see her, and get a smile and a wave back. It's amazing what the upper and lower ends of a spectrum have in common with "normal" people. On the other hand, I don't think I would have survived what William LaFever just did.
 
I read the story too and he seems to be a quite capable person, he just views the world a little different that us "normal" people
 
I have little patience for ignoramuses who deserve an ignominious fate. Truth be told I wound up in the hospital because I did not prepare adequately for a late winter trip to the White Mountains and my hiking buddy was a United States Coast Guard Academy graduate and an officer so one think she would know better too. Old map, down sleeping bag wet, blizzard. I got myself dehydrated. ER and a few IVs later I am smarter.

ETA: Thank You to the guy at the AMC building who drove my buddy back to her vehicle while I was puking out my guts in the bathroom. We all should take care of those who can not take care of themselves. Also the Nurses and Dr. at the ER.
 
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"And of course it pains me. I don't like admitting I am wrong." Magnaminous_G, that's not an apology. It's still all about you. If you want to talk about you, go to Whine & Cheese, please.
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Bastid and I had a long PM conversation, and I am agreeing to hold off on insulting people for a while. That's a personal choice because some of what he said in PM makes sense. Also see above response to unki.

My apology is sincere and coming from the heart. I wasn't trying to make it conditional, but I see your point. I'd like make it unconditional.

I am sorry I made a flippant joke about an Autistic person. I don't know any autistic people, and I don't know anything about the condition. But I do realize that some people do, and I can sympathize that it is not funny when someone comes along and makes a totally flippant and inappropriate joke at their expense. So, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have posted that pic, and I shouldn't have made the comments I did.
 
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