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Just trying to get some info, not looking to get preached to or anything like that.

What makes it ok for a knife maker to make automatic knives? Is it something like getting your ffl (07) and paying your SOT to manufacture machine guns and suppressors? What does a person need to do to stay above the board?
 
Check your local Laws
State statutes, City, County and Dept of Commerce for your state manufacturing restrictions... Blah blah Blah

Most likely if you can carry an Auto Blade in you state legally you are good to go. BUT making one there may be a whole other ballgame.
or
You can do like most do and keep quiet ;)
Remember ATF is watching and they DO canvas websites on a regular basis.
This is for informational purposes only and I am not a Lawyer...
But I do play one on TV :D
 
ATF has no jurisdiction over any knife. The only federal regulations involve interstate commerce.
 
Google Federal switchblade law and read the U.S. statute (which trumps any state law)totally prohibiting the manufacture, sale, possession thereof except in certain narrow circumstances. Then consider that in reality switchblades are all over the place, in many Idaho gas stations right next to the cash register, on the web, in knife magazines, and ponder also the fact that the law is whatever a court says it is, and then decide if you want to take a chance.
 
Miles,
You are dead wrong. The federal law prohibits manufacture, possession, etc. on FEDERAL lands and properties only. Read it again. Only federal lands and interstate commerce.
 
Just so we are talking about the same thing, here is the statute, U.S. Code, Title 15, Chapter 29, manufacture, transportation or distribution of switchblade knives as I copied it off a site called Findlaw some timeback. Maybe it's been revised or amended. But I don't see anything in this version that limits it to federal property.
Section 1242. Introduction, manufacture for introduction, transportation or distribution in interstate commerce; penalty
Whoever knowingly introduces, or manufactures for introduction,
into interstate commerce, or transports or distributes in
interstate commerce, any switchblade knife, shall be fined not more
than $2,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

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and:
Section 1243. Manufacture, sale, or possession within specific jurisdictions; penalty Whoever, within any Territory or possession of the United States,
within Indian country (as defined in section 1151 of title 18), or
within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the
United States (as defined in section 7 of title 18), manufactures,
sells, or possesses any switchblade knife, shall be fined not more
than $2,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

**************************************exceptions: Section 1244. Exceptions Sections 1242 and 1243 of this title shall not apply to -
(1) any common carrier or contract carrier, with respect to any
switchblade knife shipped, transported, or delivered for shipment
in interstate commerce in the ordinary course of business;
(2) the manufacture, sale, transportation, distribution,
possession, or introduction into interstate commerce, of
switchblade knives pursuant to contract with the Armed Forces;
(3) the Armed Forces or any member or employee thereof acting
in the performance of his duty; or
(4) the possession, and transportation upon his person, of any
switchblade knife with a blade three inches or less in length by
any individual who has only one arm.
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As I said, the law is whatever a court says it is. If you want to take a chance that some cop snags your blade and a judge will agree with your interpretation, why, my goodness, that's the American way.
 
"and:
Section 1243. Manufacture, sale, or possession within specific jurisdictions; penalty Whoever, within any Territory or possession of the United States,
within Indian country (as defined in section 1151 of title 18), or
within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the
United States (as defined in section 7 of title 18), manufactures,
sells, or possesses any switchblade knife, shall be fined not more
than $2,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both."

Exactly. These are federal lands. Notice "specific jurisdictions." These all are areas governed ONLY by the federal government. It's easy to read more into it. States are not "territories of possessions" of the US.
 
Bill-- Section 1242, the one before the section you quote, sounds like a blanket prohibition to me. The original question in this string was, what makes it okay to make switchblades. The answer seems to me to be good luck in getting your case assigned to the right judge should the government choose to prosecute. I like switchblades, bought the first one when I was 10 years old, back when every candy store had a cardboard display rack on the counter. This is a different world.
 
The first section has to do with interstate commerce only....
In 1958 the federal government still knew what state's rights were.
They have no right to ban anything, only to regulate it.
 
Didn't the decades-old definition of "switchblade" get validated in Federal court just last year?

A lot of assisted-open knives are easier to open than a legally-defined switchblade. My understanding is that if it doesn't have a button, it's not a switchblade, and if the blade doesn't fall open without some amount of pressure to start it moving, it's not a gravity knife.
 
Cut off one of your arms.

I've read that it is legal for a one armed person to carry an automatic.
(Ragnar Benson; Switch blade, the ace of blades)
 
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