Awkward knife carrying moments...

pinetree said:
One of the perks of carrying a traditional slip-joint is that people are comfortable around them.
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There was an account by Steven Dick in his magazine about a guy who cut himself with a non-locking blade when it slipped. He was out doing forest service work, and got lost trying to get back to his work partner. He survived, but had lost blood and was not in good condition. Dick said that after the incident, the guy's wife bought him a locking folder.

I don't think I would have a slip joint for that reason. Of course, a fixed blade is even safer than a locking folder.

So in the upside down universe of sheeple, a knife's acceptability is inversely related to its safety. And this is nowhere more true than among educators and governmental leaders, who serve as our shepards.
 
wutitiz said:
There was an account by Steven Dick in his magazine about a guy who cut himself with a non-locking blade when it slipped. He was out doing forest service work, and got lost trying to get back to his work partner. He survived, but had lost blood and was not in good condition. Dick said that after the incident, the guy's wife bought him a locking folder.

I don't think I would have a slip joint for that reason. Of course, a fixed blade is even safer than a locking folder.

So in the upside down universe of sheeple, a knife's acceptability is inversely related to its safety. And this is nowhere more true than among educators and governmental leaders, who serve as our shepards.
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IMO it comes down to personal preference, so there are no 'wrong answers' and I can understand your view on non-locking folders. I like framelocks, lockbacks and slipjoints. To me it just comes down to being careful about what your doing with whatever you choose to use for a task - knife, firearm, tool, vehicle, or anything else. - - That being said, one perhaps small, additional advantage of a slippie is they can be more quietly opened, used, and closed than locking folders which have that satisfying & distinct 'click'. Of course, this whole 'sheeple friendly' thing can get totally out of hand since you can't please some people no matter what you do. - - I find it 'refreshing for the soul' when I get out of the city into the mountains & rural parts of my state where people aren't quite as neurotic about such things. Regards, - -
 
when it comes to slippies vs locking knives, screw the sheeple, id rather be safe and have a reaction than cut my self and get a worse reaction and probably have some one pass out from the blood. being careful does prevent most cuts and closings but theres always that time you move and hit the blade on something and it flops closed

-matt
 
Esav Benyamin said:
I went to grade school in New York City in the early 1950s and pretty much every one of us carried a pocket knife, including some of the girls.
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I went to grade school in Wyoming in the early 50s and all the boys had pocket knives. The two main games at recess during the fair weather months would be either marbles or mumbley peg. Mumbley peg had to be played on a dirt (non-paved) area of the playground.

The version of mumbley peg that we played would have two players facing each other, a few inches apart, with their feet at shoulder width. The first player would take his pocket knife and throw it to stick in the ground. If it stuck, the second player would have to keep one foot planted where it was and move the other foot to touch the knife. He would then pull the knife out and throw it to stick and the first player would have to stretch to touch the knife and so on until one player couldn't do the stretch without falling down. The last player standing was the winner.

We always played that with all the other activities going on around us. Nobody ever had a problem with it. I haven't thought about that for years. Certainly is different today.

Ed
 
What amazes me most about the sheeple is their habit of asking the inevitable "Why on earth do you carry a knife?!?!" when the simple act of you using the knife to do whatever it is you're doing answers their own question. When people do this, I usually don't even say anything. I just look at them with a "that's the stupidest effing question I've ever heard" look on my face and go about my business. If I do answer, I usually have a witty retort prepared. For example:

You're cutting open a box clamshell package or trimming a loose thread. They ask The Question. Answer "I carry it for self defense in case I get attacked by evil clamshell packages" or "When I was very young, I was mauled by a rogue pack of wild boxes, so I live in constant fear cardboard and heavy duty packing tape", or "A loose thread killed my baby brother, so I'm awaiting my time for sweet vengeance".
 
On the bright side...

I've been pretty fortunate in not being persecuted by anti-knife people. Pretty much everyone I've encountered here at OSU is perfectly ok with knives being used for a legitimate task. The university policy is something like "no weapons" ie "don't use it or treat it as a weapon, and you won't have a problem." A fair percentage of the guys carry something visibly clipped in their pocket, and some girls I know have a SAK Classic on their keychain (A big turn-on :D :thumbup: ).

One time a girl verbally (and correctly) referred to my Kershaw Scallion as a "tool." Another one called it a "Swiss Army Knife" :p ... Well, at least she wasn't bothered by it.

At one point, one of my roommates had borrowed a cheapie butterfly knife (neither weapon nor tool, purely a plaything), and, like an idiot, he went walking through the halls flipping and manipulating it, until he was stopped in the lobby by some staff. After the hall director came to assess the situation, they basically just told him to "keep it out of sight" and let it go. They didn't even confiscate the knife, as I believe they would have been justified in doing. One shouldn't go twirling a sharp object - tool, weapon, or otherwise, in a public place. Lest it scare women and children, at the least.
 
If you go to a wedding in Scotland most of the guys there will have a fixed blade, hidden in there socks !!! :eek: :D
 
If a girl says : "is that a Benchmade Rukus in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" - marry the girl, she knows her knives!:D
 
CaptInsano said:
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Be carful about how you respond to a challenge. If a cop stops you and asks if you have a weapon and you say "I have a knife" you may get in trouble. In court they will say you thought of it as a weapon. Always say it is a tool.

That is dumb as hell. In court they will say that you blatantly lied to a police officer.
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According to my Krav Maga training anything and everything I have with me can be, and is a weapon. We regularly train with coffee cups, spoons, steel pens, and diaries.
What do I tell the policeman? "Do I have a weapon? Sure--my diary!" :D

Greg
 
Greg said:
According to my Krav Maga training anything and everything I have with me can and is a weapon.

What do I tell the policeman? "Do I have a weapon? Sure--my diary!" :D
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Anything and everything you have with you can be used as a weapon.

You can honestly and without further explanation tell a police officer that you do not have a weapon,
as long as you have nothing purpose-built and specifically carried to be a weapon.
 
My sister trains in a variety of martial arts, and one of the instructors gives classes on using regular objects, even handkerchiefs and pop bottle caps. She's going to send me a video, I can't wait to see it!
 
Greg said:
According to my Krav Maga training anything and everything I have with me can be, and is a weapon.
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Esav Benyamin said:
Anything and everything you have with you can be used as a weapon.
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- *Pulls out Knife*
- "Is that A WEAPON?!"
- "Only if it needs to be. Same as everything else in my pockets..." (pens, keys, etc.) *Continues whittling marshmallow stick*

I've been waiting to use that one, but I don't think I'd be so coy with an LEO.

"Sir, are you carrying any weapons?"
"No sir, no weapons, but I do have a pocket knife with me."

Whether or not he sees a problem with me carrying a pocket knife, I'd rather tell him about it openly, than let him find the knife in a pat-down, and decide I was hiding a concealed weapon.
 
The kind of reactions the OP described are why I no longer reveal a knife to anyone unless they are in my trusted zone. Even if it would be helpful, the public attitude makes it not worth it to me. People look at me weird for carrying a small flashlight, think of what they would do about something sharp and pointy.

I understand the mindset of "they're the ones with the problem, and shielding them from knives will just help their problem grow" mentality. Sometimes, though, it's just easier to let them deal with their own box-opening problems than to explain yourself. If it was someone I wanted to spend a lot of time with, it'd be a different story.
 
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I have a cute little Finnish Puukko, black leather scabbard, polished black handle, brass pommel, polished stainless blade. It's meant to be worn with a tux.


I used to have a ceremonial "horse head" puukko, kind of like this one:
Puukko-Horse-01.jpg



If I were going to a formal event, and believed it appropriate to bring a fixed blade, it would look something like one of these:

Decorative
Puukko-01.jpg


Hound's head
Puukko-Dog-01.jpg


Matched horse's head set
Puukko-Horse-02.jpg


Wolf's head
Puukko-Wolf-01.jpg

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I'm also from that "older" generation of kids who pretty much all carried knives at school and everywhere else. In fact, the only reason I still have the knife my dad gave me for my 12th birthday is that I was carrying it -- at school -- the day our house was burned to the ground.

I've carried a smaller "gentleman's" knife for years (Gerber Silver Knight).

More recently I've carried various slipjoints.

I've had the occasional "why do you carry (or need) a knife" question.

Here are some of the answers I've used:
  • Hey, it's mankind's oldest and most common tool; it's what separates us from the animals.
  • I look really silly trying to cut open packages with my car keys.
  • You can't possibly be serious. If you're gonna call me a geek, how can you be surprised that I have tools?
  • Wait -- you DON'T have one? You expect someone else to do your cutting for you?
  • It worries me that you don't know what people use knives for. Didn't your parents teach you tools?


 
I live in Orange County, California, and surprisingly enough, i've never had more than an occasional look thrown my way.

When walking around, i see lots of other guys with clips in their pockets and can usually identify the knife by the clip.

Either people here are coming around somewhat, or sheepitis never caught on too strongly.
 
The author of this thread was much more diplomatic and understanding than I'd have been in his situation, I must confess. I tend to be a pretty mild-mannered person and blended with the background in group activities. But this episode is just the kind of thing that'd cause me to bare my claws with no compunctions at all.

I'd feel just as free to question the interrogator's purpose for being a large-type ASS. I'd also feel at liberty to tell the crowd that I don't feel the need to justify myself to their pious and ignorant attitude and they could all kiss my backside! Goodnight all.
 
just the other day a friend was trying to cut a few stray bristles off a brush she was using and she was asking for scissors, well no one had them but i said i had my knife. pulled out my leek and opened it next to my side. ya its an AO so what, she of course went "wow" and as i was starting to try and cut the bristles she said "never mind i dont want you to cut your self" and found some one with an exacto knife.

it came up a few days later she she was again looking for something to cut with and she kind of turned me down but the knife was kind of still up for discussion and it basically came to me saying that "well its probably safer than a non-assist knife" and she did get my point. but seriously this girl grew up near where i did but in a slightly more rural area and a knife scares her... then again she didnt get why any one would need to get trained on weapons and have conceal cary because she "could never hurt some one even if they were trying to hurt her"

what ever
-matt
 
SR_matt said:
*snip*... then again she didnt get why any one would need to get trained on weapons and have conceal cary because she "could never hurt some one even if they were trying to hurt her"

what ever
-matt
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I'm glad there are people that think like that--it means any aggressor is much more likely to take off for somebody easier when *I* start to defend myself. ;)
Greg
 
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