Recommendation? Axe+Fire:Restoration?

[jblyttle]

I can tell you that it was definitely in a fire. But why do you think so?

 

[survivor45]

I can tell you that it was definitely in a fire. But why do you think so?

I'm guessing you mean why do I think it's a Sager Chemical?
It's just a wild ass guess.
I went down that list of axe manufacturers in the above thread. And just looked for any name with the letters "MIC"
Not very scientific. And I won't be upset if someone proves me wrong.

 

[phantomknives]

this is an example of one of the types of stamps used on single bit sagers, if you scroll through this thread: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/warren-axe-and-tool-company-march-manufacturer-thread.932040/

the michigan single bit is the other type of stamp that was frequently used on these. i couldnt post a direct picture because of photobucket did that thing a couple months back where you can't really do anything without a membership

 

[survivor45]

I see.
Yeah the letters on mine are a lot lower on the head.
Oh well. This is part of the fun, right ?

 

[Steve Tall]

Another example:

 

[jblyttle]

I'm guessing you mean why do I think it's a Sager Chemical?
It's just a wild ass guess.
I went down that list of axe manufacturers in the above thread. And just looked for any name with the letters "MIC"
Not very scientific. And I won't be upset if someone proves me wrong.

No, I meant what makes you think that it was in a fire. You said that you were pretty sure so I'm guessing that you have a reason other than seeing it burn. I'm just curious. You are right though.

 

[Nigel1]

I think it will come back to life ok, if it was protected from the heat and close to ground level, it might be mostly cosmetic, and yes, i AM a firefighter

 

[survivor45]

No, I meant what makes you think that it was in a fire. You said that you were pretty sure so I'm guessing that you have a reason other than seeing it burn. I'm just curious. You are right though.

The colors of the oxidizing befor I wire wheeled it. And the pitting is more flaking not the usually round pits caused by rust from moisture.

 

[jblyttle]

The colors of the oxidizing befor I wire wheeled it. And the pitting is more flaking not the usually round pits caused by rust from moisture.

Yes, the rouge color is the giveaway. I don't understand the why, as that color doesn't show up during forging. My guess is cooked rust. But yes, a tell tale sign of fire. I've seen the same on old cast iron pans put into a camp fire.

 

[survivor45]

Well I filed on it this morning.
It sure seems hard. I probably won't do anything with it anytime soon. But I think it will be a cool looking hang when I do finish it.
Thanks for all of your inputs.

 

[Lieblad]

Sagers are dammed hard. Files will barely bite. After its cleaned, try filing again to test hardness. It might still be good enough.
Unless you want to find out its specific alloy, all you can really do for heatreating is generic heat, quench & temper suited to meduim-high carbon steel.
It will definitely get hard but you wont really know what you end up with. That might be good enough, but might even crack.