Axe, Folding Saw, AND Big Knife?!?!

Since the mid 1990s (after my last long-distance and long-stay adventure in Alaska) I ditched the large knife (nevermind that I still have and love them!) for short blades in the puukko fashion. I added a small hatchet or tomahawk and, when car camping, my SOG Paratool. In the backcountry Rockies in the Summer, fires are prohibited so I don't need serious wood cutting tools. In the late Fall some years back I had to cut down a full grown aspen to fashion a lever to help free a truck from an ice-rutted hunting trail. I did this stunt with a Gerber/Fiskars Back Paxe which has resided in my get-home bag ever since. I have since added a folding pruning saw to the kit and might carry it when I next go up to the high country.

On one solo fishing trip in the Rockies, where I know the country well and was less than five (albeit strenuous) miles from the trailhead and my car, I took no knife or saw, just the Gerber hatchet. It's sharp as anything and easily touched up on a smooth river stone. It gutted brook trout, trimmed back some willows, cleared out my sleeping bower where it had grown over during the intervening months, and helped me build a small cooking fire (it was in late Spring, before the ban begins). I could have benefitted from a knife, but it was a nice experiment and really gave me a sense of competence to use what some would consider an awkward tool.

So that's some of my exprience. A lot depends on where you adventure and what you want to accomplish. In the thick willows, a large knife can get hung up. Above treeline the large knife isn't really useful. In the saddle, where I spend most of my time, a large knife is annoying. In the car, getting in and out along rutted roads looking for good river and stream access, a large knife is also a pain. When I was canoeing frequently I stowed an axe because I had the freedom to do so and in the Pacific Northwest had the liberty to take large downed logs and build camp on the shore. That obviated the need for a large knife, though at that time I was hankering for a Sami leuku. Maybe I'll revisit my gear strategies when it is time to test one of those out. And there's this skrama thing that's caught my eye, too! :)

Zieg
 
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Dammit, this forum really gets me in trouble! Now I can't break free of the thought of a skrama on the belt and an Opinel in the pocket. Must. Resist. Urge. To. Get. Another. Big. Knife.

Especially since I just paid for a Cold Steel SRK in Carbon V from the BF exchange!

Zieg
 
When considering loadout for time spent in the woods, location and activity are paramount. Carrying more than one of the big three seems ludicrous to me unless you're glamping or have grand intentions on building structures or doing heavy bushcraft. Proper pull saws make the quickest work of cutting up wood within a given diameter, but for my backpacking and firebuilding needs I've always found it to be more efficient to chop up firewood. I don't really understand carrying a saw into the woods for most trips, just like I don't understand when people pack axes. In some areas, a machete makes the most sense for the large tool, others a large knife, and some a hatchet or tomahawk. I designed my tomahawks to cut more like large knives in order to hit the largest range of uses and criteria without getting stupid heavy. Weight adds up quick!
 
Yup you only need one of the three. Which one is a matter of what your tool use is like and what you have to cut. I can see all three working well and all four if you throw machetes in the mix. Depending on your fixed blade, a saw might be the best tool. That said I don't actually use any of the four for anything but having fun in areas where cutting is okay. They fall into the category of "nice to have" rather than a necessity.
 
with enough practice it can all be done with the right large knife.... but those skills come with time, patience and use..... till you acquire those skills, you can make up for the deficiency with gear...but again, at the cost of weight.

a couple truths that I've learned...

1. Its easier to work a large knife down than to try and work a small knife up.
2. just because a single large knife can do everything, does not mean it should, and it's surely not the most efficient way to do many tasks.
3. I go to the woods to enjoy myself, part of that enjoyment for me at least, comes from the use of my gear...I love gear, I'm a gear junkie......and I enjoy myself in the woods more when I have more toys to play with.....I'm a cast iron skillet and bacon kinda guy, not an ultralight backpacker by any stretch.... my hikes rarely take me more than 7 to 10 miles.....from the truck... meh, I over pack and I like it.
 
Glad I found this thread. I have been considering the purchase of a saw and an Axe. Time for me to read and learn. Thanks guys.

I actually have been considering a Sven Saw and a Buck Froe. I figured that I could use the Froe instead of an Axe and machete.
 
I carry a gransfors bruks small forest axe, Becker bk9 or Kershaw camp 10, and silky bigboy 2000 xl saw.....I will be bringing the silky katanaboy 500 out to see if it is worth the mass.

I have to have all three considering I am partially disabled and don't have the power to chop the hell out of the wood.
 
Glad I found this thread. I have been considering the purchase of a saw and an Axe. Time for me to read and learn. Thanks guys.

I actually have been considering a Sven Saw and a Buck Froe. I figured that I could use the Froe instead of an Axe and machete.

do realize that those sven saws cannot get into tight spots. folding saws do....just my experience.
 
Hi! For my easy mountain hiking and occasional camping (given the well regulated areas), I normally carry a folder and a multi-tool. This combo serves me very well. Sometimes a compact sturdy fixed blade replaces the folder (the F1 sees most of rucksack time :)).

I think a small axe outperform a big chopper (but maybe the chopper is a tad funnier :D).
The axe or the chopper are outperformed by a folding saw (I have the Felco 600). This is my experience as non professional lumberjack :D. The saw is very efficient (yield/hour) compared to axe and chopper, "energy saving" and the cleanliness and precision of the cuts are unbeatable.

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Got to say I carry an 11" Busse Battle Saw out in the woods quite often, I don't miss not having the other tools at all. But I really like knives a lot more than saws and axes or tomahawks.
 
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