Axe, hatchet and tomahawk techniques. Videos.

Maybe I should just save my pennies and see what it's like when it comes out. Between an RMJ war hammer, and a HI M43 (if mine every comes in) and I'd have all forms of mutilation covered, eh?

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I've played with my friends CS war hammer and it does have the puckering effect to it. Is that something you would carry with your gear Cpl or just keep it by the bed for bumps in the night?

I've never thought about a war hammer before to take out on my woods bumming but I can see it having a few uses and the CS version isn't that heavy considering.
 
Interestingly, I do have my CS war hammer on my headboard. . .

I was thinking more as a breaching implement.

What I had in mind would be essentially the RMJ Shrike in construction, except the spike would be beveled and sharp on the "beard", to grant the "can opener" effect, and the hammer head would replace the hawk bit. But rather than a rectangular profile like some I've seen (American Kami, IIRC), or the square profile of the CS, it would have a rhomboidal face. The pointy heel and toe would act as a force concentration when impacting, and would even dig a chunk of flesh out on a good swing, but provide a good surface to bash out glass or cement, and bash in heads without getting stuck. The spike would still be there to puncture tires, pry out door locks, use to hook and tear, etc.
 
But rather than a rectangular profile like some I've seen (American Kami, IIRC), or the square profile of the CS, it would have a rhomboidal face.
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Something like a Viking axe?
 
No. Look at the CS war hammer. Take the square face and pinch in the sides, so it looks like a rhombus instead of a square. Then move the "hammer head" closer to the haft, so the trailing mass of the spike is more accentuated. Then offer a choice of 16" or 20" hafts.
 
I like that idea Cpl but I wasn't overly taken with the eagle talon's full tang construction for a hawk but a war hammer is a different beast. Maybe I would like it better as a hammer but I hated the eagle talon's dead feel it had.
 
Actually Cpl,i would think now this probably will suit you better.

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Problem is RMJ doesn't make them anymore.
 
Well, they make their loggerhead.

But no, I want the spike on one end and hammer on the other. Remember it's to be teamed with an M43, so I have chopping and slicing and stabbing covered.
 
I want the spike on one end and hammer on the other. Remember it's to be teamed with an M43, so I have chopping and slicing and stabbing covered.
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Hm...thanks for the enlightenment...i think i begin to see a bulb in making a tool a lot more useful.
 
I wonder if that loggerhead, could be modified so that the blade can be made in to a spike.
 
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"During the French and Indian War in North America, scouts of the Black Watch were sometimes trained as Rangers and outfitted with tomahawks rather than broadswords. But how were these weapons used? Although we have no direct evidence for the method of broadsword fencing used in the Black Watch in this period, we do have "Anti-Pugilism" by Black Watch Captain G. Sinclair from one generation later. Additional information can be gleaned from the broadsword method of Thomas Mathewson, one of whose instructors was a Sergeant Grant of the Black Watch, and from the backsword material of Andrew Lonnergan, whose manual was published about a decade after the end of the French and Indian War. Our techniques for the tomahawk are based on the broadsword method of Captain Sinclair, with a few additions from Thomas Mathewson, in particular the "whirl." This technique, which appears in both Mathewson and Lonnergan but in few other broadsword manuals, is even more effective with the tomahawk than the broadsword, because the axe-head greatly facilitates its execution. If the Black Watch scouts of the French and Indian War had prior training with the broadsword, it is likely that they would have used their tomahawks much like this."

Enjoy.
 
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Shawnee San Soo: Tomahawk and Knife
Dave talks about the tomahawk and knife duo and its application to close quarters combat.

Here is another on that’s interesting. My only complaint is the wide swings that he is making with the hawk.
 
That Black Watch video was very cool Edwood. I had never seen it before. I do think in a full out dueling situation like that though these modern hawks that have become so poplular in the world would really be at a disadvantage. They are just to short and heavy compared to their older counterparts. I think the swordsman would have a definate advantage and be able to stay out of range and thrust quite easily being such a light and manuverable weapon compared to a heavy head hawk. Just my thoughts but still liked the video.
 
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