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axe rec.

I have a 14'' fiskars and it's great. If you don't have a belt sander use a file to get to the tougher metal underneath the edge. Not sure how it happens to work out that way but now I can shave hair easy with it, and the edge holds great. I have the bigger chopper with the smaller wings that can be used for splitting as well, a sort of all around axe, and it does both chopping and splitting really well. Same issues with the edge.
 
would anyone in the midmo area or anywhere else be intrested in doing this? Im not very good with filing i still have a 4 inch long gash from last time...


but. hey! it was sharp!:p
 
The gerber comes with a cordura sheath. The fiskars comes with a bulky molded plastic sheath-type thing, that isn't nearly as packable.

The axe quality itself is the same, though, so either one. The gerber tends to run slightly more expensive (I'm guessing because of the sheath).

I'm guessing because of the brand. :barf:
 
I'll throw in another. I have alot of personal experience with this brand. Check out HB Forge's camp axes. I have one of their throwing hawks. Hand sharpened hand forged with a no BS hickory haft that you can buy from them for a very reasonable price if yours becomes damaged. Their prices are 30-40 dollars depending on the model. The quality of craftsmanship is just out the door. Other than that, I'd say get the gerber/fiskars. If you get the gerber do yourself a favor and wrap tape paint whatever over the logo....
 
I would have to say this is not true :D

What I do to axes is not rocket science. But, it is a science. You can pick up on some of the points rather quickly.

Of the mods that I do, 95% of your performance gain is going to simply be in setting up the forward cutting edge properly. The other mods that I do (evening the head, evening the bevel ramps, etc) are going to be things that an experienced axe user can appreciate. I am not so sure that the average user will even notice them. The handle is just a preference thing. I don't like varnish, and like the feel of oil, wood and wax.

I think this is the reason why GB is so popular. They are the only make that come setup with a good cutting edge. Problem for me is that the rest of the axe has issues that I am not willing to live with. If you never realize that, you will be fine with them :D

Back to the cutting edge.......I said that the most performance gain is going to come from getting the cutting edge set up right. With the exception of the GB, this is something that has to be done. All axes that I know of (at it has been this way for a long time) come with overly thick edges, and ones that are not sharp. It has always been left to the purchaser to set it up. Problem is, not too many people left who know how to do it. It is more than just being sharp. A sharp edge will still bounce and feel horrible if the shape is too thick. I have experienced axes that would easily shave hair, but bounce and cut like crap in oak. There is more to it than that.

If you look on page 4 of An Axe to Grind, you will find a jig for a good profile for an axe. If you print it out, cut it out, and then make an axe grind to match it, you will be in great shape! You can make one a little thicker, or a little thinner to suit your own particular purposes, but that profile is a good starting point.

All that is needed is a file, and then finer and finer sharpening abrasives that you probably already have around.

The "fanning" technique of applying the edge is more important with the larger axes. However, I still do it on the smaller axes as well. This particular manual details how to do it, but not the "why." There is a good reason for it. If you want me to get into, I will, but my post is getting long enough as it is :D

Back to the original topic: Cost effective axe. Personally, what I would do it scan ebay. Look for an older Plumb, Collins or Snow and Neally. If you are patient, you can pick them up sometimes cheaper than shipping. Then, grab the files and the stones, and put in some time with them. When you are done, you will feel better about really understanding the tool you just worked on. You can also check estate sales, garage sales, and flea markets. Most people see and old axe, and do not think it is worth very much.




Personally, I would not hammer with a kydex sheath on. You have to remember when you hammer with the poll, the same impact is also being imparted from the sheath to the cutting edge. Kydex sheaths do not have a welt, and eventually, I bet it will force the rivets onto the cutting edge. Ask me how I learned this one :D

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As you can see, even the welt did not stop this from happening, and the rivets did damage the edge on the way through :grumpy:

It seems like the safe thing to do. Hammer with the case on. For a long time, I was hammering without one. Now, I started making my own sheaths with a thicker welt, and have not had an issue. But, time will tell more on that one still.

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I read somewhere, probably Kephart's book, when making a sheath for an axe, put two thin sheets of brass in your welt and spread them apart a bit to keep that from happening. I can see where that might be a good idea. Maybe metal from a soda can would work as well. I suppose you would have to be using copper rivits to put it together.
 
There is one more to consider, that being the Council Tool Curved Hudson Bay Axe - Red Hill General Store. If this has been already mentioned--sorry. It's available for $31.00 and I like the S & N's but from what I have read there made in Mexico. So if this side of the boarder makes a diff to you, consider the above mentioned. I tend to support my own.

Boy am I a dope!!! I am going to recant the above made in Mexico statement until I can find POSITIVE proof of it. I see they make replacement handles down there. Can anyone here confirm that S&N's are American made???
 
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There is one more to consider, that being the Council Tool Curved Hudson Bay Axe - Red Hill General Store. If this has been already mentioned--sorry. It's available for $31.00 and I like the S & N's but from what I have read there made in Mexico. So if this side of the boarder makes a diff to you, consider the above mentioned. I tend to support my own.

Boy am I a dope!!! I am going to recant the above made in Mexico statement until I can find POSITIVE proof of it. I see they make replacement handles down there. Can anyone here confirm that S&N's are American made???

Pretty positive they are still coming out of Maine. However, I will call them up on Monday (they are not in the office today) to talk with who I get them directly from.

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