Böker Exskelibur 2 - first impressions

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Hi guys!

I got that knife a couple of days ago and I carried it for some time... I know, it´s almost a well-known knife in the Böker Plus lineup. But I just wanted to share my thoughts on it with a couple of pics and some words...

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Opened

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It is a collaboration between Böker / Mike Skellern / Tom Burger - there it got its name Exskelibur - I got the smaller version of it. There might be a bigger one out there with no smooth G10 scales - those are rougher than on the small one.

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It has a TI-Clip - which is pretty nice imo. The clip feels a little rough but keeps the knife strongly in position, but not too much, so it can be pulled out easily

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It has a linerlock mechanism for locking the blade. The liner stands well on the blade. I have no doubt, that it will keep the blade safely in its position without closing accidentely. BTW: It´s no heavy-duty-knife at all. This is what knives are built for, formaly - Cutting. It has a single-liner construction, which makes the knife loose weight.
I was impressed by, how tough this G10 synthetic is. It´s unable to press the handle so that it will move a little. On much other knives, that´s to make with ease.

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The blade (440C) is slightly off-centered, but it has no bladeplay. Ok, that´s a small issue. But as long as the blade doesn´t rub against the liner, it´s ok for me. About the blade steel: Böker uses the 440C even on their Solingen made knives and they do a great HT on them, imo. The combination Böker & 440C is a very good one :)

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That´s a real eyecatcher - the red fiber inlay and blue anoidized liner rounded up by the darkgrey G10 scales makes the whole knife a nice appearence.

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The grinds are not uneven or whatever - this little bugger came razorsharp without any issue! As you can see (hopefully), the blade has a nice satin-finish with the spine but not from up to down. I don´t know exactly how to explain it - my english skills aren´t good enough :(

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Obligatory in-hand-pic ;) Well, you can see the smooth G10 which feels like silk in the hand. Not cold or plain but smooth and warm. I really like that feeling and the look of the G10 when held against the light is just great!

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Size comparison to the Case Peanut.

Conclusion:

A nice two-handed knife. Which is sold as such. It can be opened with one hand, but not easily. I think, it´s an alternative to many other one-handers and you don´t get in struggle with law. This one is really a featherweight. I don´t know how much it weights, but the liner and blade are the ony things made of steel on this one and the clip is made of TI.
It´s a good to-go EDC knife for light and daily cutting tasks. I wouldn´t recommend it to any hard user, the missing second liner bothers me putting it into hard use. But it´s a nice office and dress knife. The whole appearance is very modern to me the used materials, too.

Comments are welcome :)
 
Ive got one too. It makes for a great office folder. The fit and finish on mine is second to none. This relatively cheap "Made in China" folder has put some of my US-made knives to shame.

I'd still love to own the original Burger knife, though.
 
I'd also love to own the custom Burger, but have you seen the prices!

The Exskeliburs are two of Boker's nicest Chinese models, IMO. And you're dead-on that these are for light duty.

The steel almost surely isn't 440C, and is likely Chinese 9Cr13Mov.

My small Exskeliburs didn't come with a tool to adjust the proprietary pivot. But Boker USA will send send you one for free, if you ask.

Very nice for the office or dress. BTW: I can open and close mine one-handed, sliding the blade with my thumb.
 
Mine should have been delivered with the tool - but I was fool and bought the knife at a store some distance away. I forgot to ask the owner for the box with the tool included. So I wrote Böker Germany an email if they would send it to me. I´d pay for it, because it was my fault and not theirs.

About the 440C - I think it´s a nice steel which sharpens easily and keeps the edge for some time. They use the 440C on their Solingen made knives, which are very nice knives in general...
 
The steel almost surely isn't 440C, and is likely Chinese 9Cr13Mov.

:confused:

So Böker are running a scam, marking the blades 440C, while in reality they're made of cheap Chinese steel? And you base this conclusion on what?
 
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So Böker are running a scam, marking the blades 440C, while in reality they're made of cheap Chinese steel? And you base this conclusion on what?

Chinese factories use Chinese steels, not 440C. This isn't a new issue, check it out.
 
I have similar blade centering issues on mine. Not a big deal but I'm trying to fix it.

When I apply pressure on the pivot, the blade moves towards the center, then moves back when I let go. It seems to me the pivot holes are drilled too deep, even when the pivot is at its tightest, it is unable to press on the blade with enough pressure. I'm thinking of applying something to fill the pivot hole, maybe by 1/2 mm. What do you guys think? Any suggestions on what to use?
 
Mine should have been delivered with the tool - but I was fool and bought the knife at a store some distance away. I forgot to ask the owner for the box with the tool included. So I wrote Böker Germany an email if they would send it to me. I´d pay for it, because it was my fault and not theirs.

About the 440C - I think it´s a nice steel which sharpens easily and keeps the edge for some time. They use the 440C on their Solingen made knives, which are very nice knives in general...

Were you able to get the pivot tool? I have extras if you need one.
 
you could try making a bunch of paper washers and seeing how many it takes to do the job, then replace with plastic washers of appropriate thickness
 
you could try making a bunch of paper washers and seeing how many it takes to do the job, then replace with plastic washers of appropriate thickness

That crossed my mind but I wasn't sure if plastic washers came so thin.
 
problem solved. I had to unscrew the pivot and take out the blade entirely. After I put it back it is dead center. Guess there was something in the pivot.

I noticed the pivot washers are made of plastic. would it be easy to find bronze washer replacements?
 
Sometimes "plastic" is not any old plastic and is better than bronze. The custom knifemaker Terzuola uses nylatron washers and believes them to be superior to bronze. You can find washers of various types if you search for knife kits or knife supply houses.
 
Chinese factories use Chinese steels, not 440C. This isn't a new issue, check it out.

Source of proof for this ?
Chinese factories have made knives in a lot of different steels for many companies, were all of those wrongly advertised ?
 
Sometimes "plastic" is not any old plastic and is better than bronze. The custom knifemaker Terzuola uses nylatron washers and believes them to be superior to bronze. You can find washers of various types if you search for knife kits or knife supply houses.

Good to know. Thanks!
 
about the 440c/9crxxx thing.

440c is a standard, not a brand, not a proprietary name. 9cr18mo, 9cr16mov are pretty much 440c .... except a touch of nickel in one and a touch of v in the other they both fit in the 440c standard.

for the OP (old thread, i know.) your knife is not exactly a two handed opener. it opens via the jimped portion of the tang that acts exactly like a flipper. mine flicks open very fast this way, as fast as any welle made flipper.
 
about the 440c/9crxxx thing.

440c is a standard, not a brand, not a proprietary name. 9cr18mo, 9cr16mov are pretty much 440c .... except a touch of nickel in one and a touch of v in the other they both fit in the 440c standard.

for the OP (old thread, i know.) your knife is not exactly a two handed opener. it opens via the jimped portion of the tang that acts exactly like a flipper. mine flicks open very fast this way, as fast as any welle made flipper.

No problem, thanks for your input :)

About the one hand opening: It can be opened with one hand. But it has no thumb stud, opening hole, flipper or whatever. So in Germany it is a declared two-hande opening knife. ;) (An Opinel also can be opened with one hand, but it´s definitelly a two hand folder - at least per definition)
 
from many reviews, I gather that the eskelibur 2 is not quite as well made and silky smooth as the eskelibur 1. Flipping with the jimping is not quite as easy and closing the knife wearing gloves can be an issue. Great knives, but not EDC for UK (because it's a locking knife). You can carry a fixed blade or locking knife with "good reason". When I have good reason, I tend to go for a fixed blade. This means my lockers tend to be for collection purposes. So I would rather go for the Burger original considering these factors. If I lived in USA I'd go for the Eskelibur 1.
 
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