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can anyone give a comparison of the B.A.S. vs the ANG KHOLA . I am trying to decide which to purchase. Any imput would be appreciated. THANKS!!
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B.A.S. vs ANG KHOLA
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I tend to think of the BAS like a short machete and the AK more like a hatchet. The AK is thicker and heavier. It is an unbelieveable chopper. The BAS will outslice it though, due to the thinner blade.
I consider the BAS to be a great all-purpose large knife, but if you are going to get into some serious chopping of wood or other solid material, the AK kicks serious butt.
Clay
PS Don't discount the WWII model! It is a fav!
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I consider the BAS to be a great all-purpose large knife, but if you are going to get into some serious chopping of wood or other solid material, the AK kicks serious butt.
Clay
PS Don't discount the WWII model! It is a fav!
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Go back to the 6/26 thread titled "Tom wants to post this...". If you are appreciative of what the HI khukri is all about, then you cannot make a mistake. Some are better tools for one application than others. All somehow evoke an (atavistic) appreciation of something mystic and magical for those who will hear it. 80% of Uncle Bill's business is to those of us who are still today searching for our own Excalibur.
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The AK is a pit bull. The BAS a well trained German Shepard...if this analogy helps.
Uncle Bill
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Well put!!!
There i nothing I can say about the AK
that hasn't already been said. It is an
AWESOME blade. A true chopping fiend!!!
I bought a shop 2 BAS some time ago but
only got it out for a really good workout
today. I spent several hours outside today
cutting the lawn and trimming weeds,
hedges and trees. I decided this was an
opportune time to put the BAS through its
paces. First of all I find that it is
easier to carry on a belt than the AK (I
have a 15" model) due to its lighter
weight. It also comes out of the frog
easily which is nice when you are sitting
down. Weeds and hedges were no match for
the BAS. It definitely slices through the
lighter stuff better than the AK. I had a
partially broken tree limb hanging almost
straight down in my yard that needed to
go. It was still alive and about 1 1/2"
thick. (I'm not sure what kind of tree it
is) I took a strong overhead chop and
severed the limb completely! At the angle
that I went through the limb I sliced
cleanly through about 2-2 1/2" of wood. I
was amazed. The rest of the limb barely
moved. I figure I must have stumbled
across the perfect chopping (shearing?)
technique although I haven't been able to
duplicate it! After a good bit of
chopping through light to medium brush
and branches the edge on the BAS is
barely effected. Edge retention is
excellant!
When I first got this shop 2 BAS I gave
it only a luke warm reception. It isn't
as finely finished as my shop 1 AK and is
not as visually impressive as the AK is.
Well, after finally getting out and
really using the BAS my opinion has
changed. The quality is second to none.
It is easier to tote around and handles
the lighter work better than the AK. If I
could have only one I would keep the AK.
The BAS really fills in a very useful
niche though and any thoughts of trading
it back for something else have vanished
after today.
Mike
[This message has been edited by Jaeger (edited 01 July 1999).]
There i nothing I can say about the AK
that hasn't already been said. It is an
AWESOME blade. A true chopping fiend!!!
I bought a shop 2 BAS some time ago but
only got it out for a really good workout
today. I spent several hours outside today
cutting the lawn and trimming weeds,
hedges and trees. I decided this was an
opportune time to put the BAS through its
paces. First of all I find that it is
easier to carry on a belt than the AK (I
have a 15" model) due to its lighter
weight. It also comes out of the frog
easily which is nice when you are sitting
down. Weeds and hedges were no match for
the BAS. It definitely slices through the
lighter stuff better than the AK. I had a
partially broken tree limb hanging almost
straight down in my yard that needed to
go. It was still alive and about 1 1/2"
thick. (I'm not sure what kind of tree it
is) I took a strong overhead chop and
severed the limb completely! At the angle
that I went through the limb I sliced
cleanly through about 2-2 1/2" of wood. I
was amazed. The rest of the limb barely
moved. I figure I must have stumbled
across the perfect chopping (shearing?)
technique although I haven't been able to
duplicate it! After a good bit of
chopping through light to medium brush
and branches the edge on the BAS is
barely effected. Edge retention is
excellant!
When I first got this shop 2 BAS I gave
it only a luke warm reception. It isn't
as finely finished as my shop 1 AK and is
not as visually impressive as the AK is.
Well, after finally getting out and
really using the BAS my opinion has
changed. The quality is second to none.
It is easier to tote around and handles
the lighter work better than the AK. If I
could have only one I would keep the AK.
The BAS really fills in a very useful
niche though and any thoughts of trading
it back for something else have vanished
after today.
Mike
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Maybe that's an analogy I should remember --
If I can!
Uncle Bill
If I can!
Uncle Bill
I like my khukhuri's big and heavy since I'm generally a lazy person. So I tend to favor the Ang Khola over the BAS. I usually chop wood and the Ang Khola will out chop the BAS by a fair margin. Besides chopping efficiency the Ang Khola should have a lot more lateral strength, but how much do you really need.
On the plus side for the BAS, it is about 100 g lighter, neat frog, very nice blade etchings and generally a more beutiful knife. The BAS will cut better and as many have mentioned be a better machette than the Ang Khola. As far as wood chopping it will do everything the Ang Khola can do but takes longer.
As a weapon the BAS would win over the Ang Khola. It is lighter and therefore faster and has a more netruel balance.
Of course you can do what I did and get both.
Will
On the plus side for the BAS, it is about 100 g lighter, neat frog, very nice blade etchings and generally a more beutiful knife. The BAS will cut better and as many have mentioned be a better machette than the Ang Khola. As far as wood chopping it will do everything the Ang Khola can do but takes longer.
As a weapon the BAS would win over the Ang Khola. It is lighter and therefore faster and has a more netruel balance.
Of course you can do what I did and get both.
Will
I would want the BAS in any event because of the Mil. connection.One can choke up on the bolster to avoid the hole in the heel of your hand.The horn is stabilized for this climate by now so,I may whittle on the pommel.A handy kuk but I prefer the pre war version.That could be said for a lot of things.
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Which analogy did you mean, Uncle?
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Clay, the pit bull vs German Shepard.
Rusty, get back on your medication!
Uncle Bill
Rusty, get back on your medication!
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I was thinking of the AK as a Rottweiler, the BAS/WWII as a German Shepherd, and the Sirupati as a Doberman Pinscher.
Guess I am just a fool for parallel structure -- gotta keep them all in the black/brown German dog scheme!
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Guess I am just a fool for parallel structure -- gotta keep them all in the black/brown German dog scheme!
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That's not so bad, either, Clay.
uncle Bill
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15" BAS has a combination of extra beauty, strength and light weight but 15" AK has a combination of beauty, extra strength and medium weight.
Say ~ it takes you 15 days to admire the beauty of 15" BAS but it takes you 14 days to do so with 15" AK.
Say ~ you need 13 chops of 15" BAS to cut down a small tree but you only need 10 chops of 15" AK to perform the same task.
Say ~ you deliver a strike using 15" BAS and within 1 second it reach the target but within 1.25 seconds your strike with 15" AK also reach the target.
Say ~ 15" BAS is a Muhammad Ali ! Muhammad Ali ! Muhammad Ali ! but watch out because 15" AK is just a Mike Tyson !
Spring ~ I guess you need to have both but I think 15" BAS is a good start. In my case I need to have more than those two but taqdir @ karma have been decided that 15" AK is my first one.
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Say ~ it takes you 15 days to admire the beauty of 15" BAS but it takes you 14 days to do so with 15" AK.
Say ~ you need 13 chops of 15" BAS to cut down a small tree but you only need 10 chops of 15" AK to perform the same task.
Say ~ you deliver a strike using 15" BAS and within 1 second it reach the target but within 1.25 seconds your strike with 15" AK also reach the target.
Say ~ 15" BAS is a Muhammad Ali ! Muhammad Ali ! Muhammad Ali ! but watch out because 15" AK is just a Mike Tyson !
Spring ~ I guess you need to have both but I think 15" BAS is a good start. In my case I need to have more than those two but taqdir @ karma have been decided that 15" AK is my first one.
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Thanks Mohd for interesting analogy. And, Rusty, Nevada gun toting style is showing thru.
Uncle Bill
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My son has the BAS from last year. It is very well balanced, and in my opinion ranks as one of the best H.I. khukuris. The scabbard is not that wide, making it less bulky and easier to carry for being a 15" khukuri that is about 7/16" thick. Has a (Speed and Power) feel.
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Many thanks, Jay, for valued input.
For those who may not know, Jay is an excellent and dedicated martial arts instructor. I had the great pleasure to view a video of some competition exercises done by his students and the way they performed told me that Jay was a great instructor. I suspect he is still not so bad himself but the years catch up with all of us.
Uncle Bill
For those who may not know, Jay is an excellent and dedicated martial arts instructor. I had the great pleasure to view a video of some competition exercises done by his students and the way they performed told me that Jay was a great instructor. I suspect he is still not so bad himself but the years catch up with all of us.
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I am biased as I own but one HI khukuri. I selected the BAS. It is amazingly light and well balanced ,which belies its awesome chopping ability and substantial strength. Its relatively compact size hides a wolf in sheeps clothing, and I feel it is the quintessential kukri in my eyes, being carried the world over by Gurkhas,SAS troopers(on occasion) and adventurers. If weight is not a consideration, the HI Ang Kholas and WWII's are also favored by fellow HI khukuri aficionados. Good Luck.
Rusty, don't forget the Karda...22 long rifle,
and I am also working up that .458 Mag/.243 depleted uranium/tungsten boattail riding in a sabot varmint load with Elmer Keith's ghost watching over me
Stay safe and all the best, Phil <--------<
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Rusty, don't forget the Karda...22 long rifle,
and I am also working up that .458 Mag/.243 depleted uranium/tungsten boattail riding in a sabot varmint load with Elmer Keith's ghost watching over me
Stay safe and all the best, Phil <--------<
[This message has been edited by Phil Squire (edited 04 July 1999).]