backpack thread

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Rather then hijack the spartan sak thread, I am in the market for a good bag,
60L and up. I want one that's got lots of neat pouches for various gear, looks cool, is comfortable, and preferably in the 200$ range.
Or, just tell us what kind of bag you use and why you like it.:)
 
I was going to start a very similar thread myself! I've been in need of a new one too. I'm looking somewhere between 3500 and 4800 cu.in. right now probably, and around $125 to $150 max.

I was checking out the ALPS packs over at Sportmans Warehouse and they look pretty solid, very versatile and well thought out. A bit on the heavier side, but rugged.
 
I'm looking for the same thing myself, so I'll also be following this....

For what it's worth, I'm looking at MEC's Brio packs. Haven't actually been into the store for a hands-on yet. I've also been thinking about digging up an old 64 pattern (CF) ruck frame and putting a newer bag on it. You can buy them ready to go, but for quite a bit more $$.

EDIT: 60 l converts to 3661 c.i.
 
http://ospreypacks.com/

I have a few of these packs and have been very happy with them. They get used almost every weekend for either hiking/backpacking, rockclimbing, backcountry skiing or just skiing at the areas. Mine are a few years old and have held up to abuse well. I also have an old Gregory with a stiff belt that is used to support the load. I have never gotten used to this pack despite many hundred miles.... All my packs are internal frame - so I can't add anything if you are looking for external...
 
http://www.highsierrasport.com/ItemDetail?itemNum=5457
heres mine it is easy to get your stuff organized and doens't cost a arm and leg. many pockets and heavy zippers there are better packs out there but it has a good warrenty. when you use your pack a lot it tends to take on damage and needs replacing so i knid if look at cost and function before name. would love to find a pack with a busse style warrenty.:D:D
 
I got an older Kelty west coast 4800ci. Its an external frame, i paid for it about $138 on sale. Its a good pack and carries well. The only problem i got is that its noisy. What i mean is that you can hear the movement in the frame. I never did have to fill it full. Its nice to know that if i want to put some bullky clothes i got the room for it. Besides i find its easier to carry a large bag half empty then a small pack full to the max.

Sasha
 
I got an older Kelty west coast 4800ci. Its an external frame, i paid for it about $138 on sale. Its a good pack and carries well. The only problem i got is that its noisy. What i mean is that you can hear the movement in the frame. I never did have to fill it full. Its nice to know that if i want to put some bullky clothes i got the room for it. Besides i find its easier to carry a large bag half empty then a small pack full to the max.

Sasha

My Jansport Ranier external has the same problem with the squeakiness. It also doesn't let you be very flexible, and it tends to snag and catch on a lot of things. I'm in the market for something for streamlined and flexible.

I know I am a minimalist and likely won't use a lot of the space if i get a big pack, but like you I am sick of filling a small pack to the brim and fighting all my stuff to get in there (or lash it to the outside:grumpy:).
 
MacPac Cascade. I have an older version of this one -
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I'm of the if it's got handles you can carry it school of thought. Nah, seriously, it's big, and big is good when I need to haul a lot of gear on foot. I've done my time strapping gear on the outside of pacs and rattling along like an old tinker. It's no fun when it snags in undergrowth, and it's even less fun when you want to do a river crossing. Nope, all the gear goes in the pac.

Comfort. I find it very comfortable. It transfers all the load to where it should be, and it is stable.

Love the MacPac AzTec fabric. Very weatherproof, and responds well to reproofing with Nikwax.

Simple. It doesn't come with a family of little pockets and loops of dubious worth, and that's a blessing.

When you drop the dividing shelf out you have just a one vast compartment and a couple of outside pockets with a decent amount of room. That's invaluable when you want to pack a whole bunch of rope or things that resist packing [neoprene and helmets .etc].

Bolt on an extra pair of pockets for light yet bulky items like fleeces and it's all the carrying capacity I could need.

My three pacs prior to this were Karrimor, Karrimor, and Berghaus. I paid over the top for this one, and I'm glad I did although seeing one down from £190 to £129 here is a bummer
 
http://ospreypacks.com/

I have a few of these packs and have been very happy with them. They get used almost every weekend for either hiking/backpacking, rockclimbing, backcountry skiing or just skiing at the areas. Mine are a few years old and have held up to abuse well. I also have an old Gregory with a stiff belt that is used to support the load. I have never gotten used to this pack despite many hundred miles.... All my packs are internal frame - so I can't add anything if you are looking for external...

i second osprey packs... i have a few of those myself.... top notch stuff...:thumbup:

camelbak's are also really nice and fairly priced....
 
Osprey, the lightest. Maxpedition, zillions of attach points. Lotsa others.
Most important thing in a back pack is to have someone else to carry it!
 
Little smaller than you's guys requirements, but I'd be interested in trying this LLBean model. Waterproof, quiet and relatively cheap. Little attached pack comes off. Based upon the backpacker.com award winning bigelow pack:
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If you're looking for lighter fare, I use this Golite Quest and they have plenty of ultralight packs - the Jam2 is getting good reviews.
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I got a Gregory Palisade that is quite nice. Ive used it a few times with no complaints. It was only $200ish not sure bought it a while back. Its a simple pack with just a few extras: nice padded belt, detachable shoulder/fanny pack for short trips(I used it to put most the food in to hang away from bears), bunch of adjustments everywhere.

A few friends have some REI packs that arnt bad either. One of them actually loads like a suitcase (not top load) comes in quite nice to organize a bit easier.
 
I've got an old MEC pack that's about 15 years old, the exact model hasn't been made in years and I can't recall the name but it is similar to this one:

MEC Alpinlite 85

It's about 100 litres and will expand an additional 20 litres or so. It's been all over the world with me and really stood up well, it's only needed a few minor stitch-ups and snaps/buckles. It's a very simple design, top loading (my personal preference) with no main compartment zippers, internal aluminium stays, three compartments (the large main compartment and two zippered ones on the top "flap"). It's large enough to hold all my gear and food for a one week solo hiking trip without having anything strapped to the outside, two weeks and I strap the thermarest only to the outside (I hate having anything strapped or hanging from the outside of my pack)

I've got a bunch of smaller packs from MEC, The North Face, and Spec Ops. The Spec Ops T.H.E. pack is very well made, although I find it a bit uncomfortable without an internal frame (apparently this can be bought separately now) and the chest strap when done up actually chokes me (I really need to fix that). The North Face packs are OK, but expensive.

In my opinion, it's hard to beat MEC's offerings; they are relatively cheap, high-quality, well designed, comfortable, and have a fantastic guarantee.
 
I have the Gregory Forrester at the moment, and it has served me well. It is super comfortable, was not too expensive (I paid around $170 on sale), and is still in great condition after many trips using it. My next pack will be an Arc'Teryx Naos, but I would avoid those unless you can get a really good discount or just have piles of money sitting around.

As far as brands to look at, the relatively large higher end backpacker crowd type companies are Arc'Teryx, Osprey, Gregory, Marmot, REI, GoLite, and Granite Gear. I'm sure I am forgetting some, but those should be a good start.

Fit is super important with a backpack. Every backpack company will make a pack that fits your criteria, but not everyone will make one that is comfortable to you. Your best bet is to wander into a specialty outdoor retailer and talk to someone in the backpacking area about pack fit. Do not bother with a regular sporting goods store. The employees there usually are not backpackers and will not be able to help much. REI is usually a safe bet, and they have the tools to measure what size pack you will need, along with weighted sacks so you can see what the pack feels like when it is loaded up. They will usually also let you pack your actual gear in the bag so you can see how it feels with what you actually own. Take any recommendations that you get from people with a grain of salt, since an awesome pack may feel horrible on your back. Just try out a bunch from different manufacturers and settle on one that you like the fit.

For lots of pockets and organization, good luck. The backpacker (not hunter, sportsmen, etc.) type companies make some awesome, high quality, super comfortable, and light packs, but organization has never been a priority from what I have seen. More pockets means more fabric and more zippers, which means more weight, which is the opposite way that most of them are going. You will usually have a main compartment, a lid pocket or two, and one or two external zippered pockets. The one nice thing a lot of the companies are starting to do is include small zippered pockets on the hip belt, which is incredibly useful for knives, flashlights, and other small gear. You might also have some external straps and mesh water bottle pockets. What I do is pack my stuff that needs organization in other lightweight organizing sacks or containers and then put those in my pack. It adds weight, but saving the frustration of rooting through my pack is worth it to me.

Also, by some sort of divine coincidence, I just got done writing an article on packing a backpack. I'll have one up about fitting a backpack soon.
 
I think I will wait to go to the MEC store in Halifax, the staff seem pretty experienced there. If it's going to be a heavy pack, I should probably try it on and look for a good fit.
I wanna pick up some more mountain house dehydrated food, too, tasty stuff.
 
Before I recommend any brands I'd have to say that packs are a lot like boots.

The one that fits best is the best pack. I always base my buying choice on fit. I don't care how much I like the features, if it isn't comfortable, it sucks.

I don't stick to one brand because fit varies from pack to pack.
 
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