Backpacking/ Bug Out "Trailer"

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I was curious to see if anyone on BF has used or at least contemplated utilizing a trailer or litter for outdoor excursioning.
By "trailer", I'm refering to a load-berring carridge with one or two wheels, something like a rickshaw.
Seems an ideal way to get excess gear out to the Great Unknown without
over-burdoning ones back, but as I have never used one, I'm only guessing as to their usefulness. Here is an example of one:
http://www.kayak-canada.ca/Carrix/carrix.htm
 
Who was that moron that extolled the virtues of a "Survival Wheelbarrow?"

I suppose it is _A_ way to do it...............:rolleyes:

I remember now.........."Gun Kid".........

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I like the idea. Probably overkill for most of the hiking I do, but if I were to head out for an extended trek I think I'd like it. I also might look into something like this for winter hiking. It may just encourage me to take along too much stuff though. I'm finally starting to get my pack down to a more reasonable size by weeding out all of the unnecessary junk that I used to carry.
 
HAHAHA I remember him on the other forum Glocktalk.com. Boy, he was a true nut!! LOLOLOL
 
That would work on flat, clear trails, but not if you go somewhere rugged or overgrown. Maybe for a trailhead basecamp . . .
 
"survivor wheelbarrow"? Was he kidding? Sounds like he wasn't, according to you two.
That sounds like some stupid, laborious shit.
This would be an "addendum", as it were, to a b.o.b.
Make things like water cacheing and such easier. Maybe evan an evac litter for someone sick /injured?
 
People who knew him on the forums wish he was kidding. He was a nut when he posted on the forums. He would talk about debarking a herd of chihuahuas for guard dogs. Not to metion he would talk about taking a glock, a 22lr conversion kit, and home made silencer as being the perfect weapon when the SHTF type senario. I think he even made a wheel barrel into a 4 wheel drive ATV and filled it up with boat loads of .22 ammo. He had loads of ammo of various calibers stock up in his home and the feds busted him. Eventually he got arrested and set to jail where he will never hurt any one but himself and other inmates.

Sorry didn't mean to hijack your thread. Back to the subject.
 
bowieman said:
... Maybe evan an evac litter for someone sick /injured.
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That would be a big negative on using it for as a litter. The amount of jostling the patient would be subjected to would be unacceptable. In the SAR community we have to take into consideration the type of terrain and type of injury when we transport a patient. Patients with back/neck injuries must be handled extremely carefully. Also patients suffering from hypothermia are also very susceptible to cardiac arrest if they are subjected to hard knocks or are dropped. We use the appropriate transport method to ensure that no further harm comes to the patient.
 
I know it is serious from later posts- but when I first read the words 'survivor wheelbarrow' I laughed harder than I did all week! Thanks for that!

Regarding the cart. Reminds me when I used to go winter camping. We would drag our stuff on tobaggans with a harness on snow shoes. It made for pretty efficient travel on the trails and we needed a lot more gear in the cold. I've also used the little portage wheels for the canoe - which I've found to be pretty much a pain in the butt. Portages rarely seem to co-occur with a good trail. Most times the little wheels had to be dragged along while the canoe was on our back.
 
I suppose then that it would suffice as a paved road device. Since I'm in So. California, and there is an abudance of roads / freeways, and ample oppertunity to get stuck on said thoroghfares, I guess it would work to help get out of that situation, then I could start to make a base camp, cache goods, or whatever.
James61 said:
Also patients suffering from hypothermia are also very susceptible to cardiac arrest if they are subjected to hard knocks or are dropped.
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I've never heard of this. How, exactly does this occure?
 
bowieman said:
I suppose then that it would suffice as a paved road device. Since I'm in So. California, and there is an abudance of roads / freeways, and ample oppertunity to get stuck on said thoroghfares, I guess it would work to help get out of that situation, then I could start to make a base camp, cache goods, or whatever.
James61 said:

I've never heard of this. How, exactly does this occure?
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I heard this from several of the EMTs on the team I am with. I don't know the exact mechanics of why, but apparently it can occur in the later stages of hypothermia. I can get back to you after I talk to someone more knowledgable. I just know it is something we have to be careful of.
 
Why not use a bicycle setup, similar to what the Vietcong used?
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(Images from the US Army Transportation Museum website: http://www.transchool.eustis.army.mil/museum/VCBIKE.htm

Or one of the small trailers that hitch to the back of the bike. A bike would seem more efficient and able to traverse longer distances than something being pulled while on foot. At least the VC setup will allow you to possibly ride the bike on flat surfaces.
 
If I had the choice and had time to prepare to leave the house in a survival sitution on foot, I'd probably take along my deer cart as my trailer. You could rig it up a bit different and you certainly could strap on a lot of stuff to the side rails. Aluminum one would probably be a lot better than steel.
 
Wow, Gun Kid was here too? He used to talk about things like big-game hunting with full auto 10" barrel'ed AR's, that kind of craziness.

+1 for Ultraman. You can carry alot on a bike trailer, even more I think if you use the bike as a cart and walk it. I once knew a guy who was a hobby farmer and used to take all his produce to market in a bike trailer.
 
James 61 said:
I heard this from several of the EMTs on the team I am with. I don't know the exact mechanics of why, but apparently it can occur in the later stages of hypothermia. I can get back to you after I talk to someone more knowledgable. I just know it is something we have to be careful of.
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When the extremeties cool the body shuts down circualtion to them to protect the core temp. If you move a very cold arm or leg or rub it you will circulate fridged blood back to the heart and brain that further cools the subject of can cause acute MI's.

Do not rub or jostle a true hypothermic subject you could kill them.

That said there are SAR protocols that are different in the back 40 for some things. Without a chopper evac you must exstract the patient by hand. If that patient tanks on you all bets are off C-spine suspected or not, you have to get the subject out, spine is secondary to breathing.

There are litters designed for this with 2 inline mountain bike wheels and handles to wheel them out and they work quite well.


Skam
 
I think the bike is probably the best solution:
* readily available
* low profile
* light, and small can be used on most man made trails
* can be used to stach gear as seen on Vietnam pictures
* can be used as an efficient autonomous mean of transportation
Swiss army have used bikes for years (not sure they still do it though).

As for the survival wheelbarrow, I think the "carrix system" has been pretty well proven, at least on trails - not sure about it for bush wacking.

Plus for similar system, we all know that toboggan/pulka is the "carrying" mean of choice on flat snowy terrain.
 
I made a barrow / cart of sorts out of a bike , used a 20 inch single wheel , and pulled it behind me . it was as a person , and about 4 foot ofuseable load carrying bed

It did good , but when we got to busy jungly stuff it was a PITA ..

it was good for most going tho , where there was a clear track to walk

I would use it again if I had it here now , but Im not grieving that I do not have it either ...
 
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