Backup IWB concealed carry question

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Ed45

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I am a CCW permit holder (licensed P.I. and PSS) and carry 24/7 (Kimber CDP Ultra) and carry a pocket clip (BM 710 or 640) but am interested in a weak side (left for me) inside waist band fixed blade knife carry; more than likely a Scott Hendryx sheath. Just about ready to send my Nimravus and the thought occurs to me that while I love this knife it may not be the best for this particular job. If this knife comes out, its not for quartering an apple. I am thinking a dagger style blade like my SOG Pentagon might be better for greater chances of deep penetration in a life or death situation (perish the thought). I travel through several juristictions weekly and any one of them could bust you for about any type blade so I'm not worried about the technical legality aspect. Would apprciate advice. Ed
 
The knife that you are looking for is called the Camillus Cuda CQB-2. Buy one, and you will be very pleased with your choice.:).
 
thought it a little long and thick in the grip for this use. That was why the Pentagon came to mind. The Cuda is made in a smaller version also. Another option to ponder. Thanks. Ed
 
Ed45,

The CQB-2 IS the smaller of the two. The CQB-1 is longer.
 
I think it is a little bit unclear which knife you want, because the weights and measures of the SOG Recondo and your Camillus CQB 1 are approximately identic.
Assuming that you search for a smaller knife than your CQB 1, I suggest the push dagger models of Cold Steel, especially the Safe Keeper 2 model.


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http://www.coldsteel.com/
 
On the subject though, Consider the CRKT Companion. I've been carrrying it on my weakside, inside the pants in one of the sheaths and it makes for great crossdraw with my right hand or icepick draw with my left.
 
welcome to the forums, quiet priest!

hey, man. consider a cold steel mini-culloden. patterned after the traditional scottish dirk. nice and thin for concealability, nice length for penetration, pointy dagger-style blade. www.coldsteel.com
peace.
aleX.
 
one thing you might want to consider is that just about any fixed blade can be carried with a static cord, so you don't need to let the sheath totally determine your choices.

- Pete
 
I would recommend one of Bud Nealy's knives with his awesome carry system.You can't beat the compact sizes of knives he offers and great multi-carry system that makes it a beautiful package,which would seem ideal for a PI.Give his stuff a look,Bud makes the best(in my opinion) concealed carry systems.
 
Hmmm...how about the Fallkniven Garm Fighter?

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I have to admit that one of my favorite carries IWB/SOB is my old Cold Steel Tanto, but you're already carrying a fair amount of gear and that thing is pretty big.

I'm thinking, I'm thinking... Oh! Jerry Hossom! He makes wonderful fixed blades and his Narc, among others, looks superb for what you're thinking.

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http://www.hossom.com/

Man, there's a ton of custom guys now that I think about it!
 
Am I missing the point here? You have a Kimber and a BM710 and want another knife? Another life ago, before the DODPD I did some PSS and escort work. Another leathal weapon just does not add up.

IMHO - an effective non-leathal device would make much more sense. I would go with a mini ASP. Or even CS foam for that matter. You could easily have Blade Tech or Normark make up an IWB holder for the ASP.

I don't know how many times you have had to use your gear. But in my experiance, a baton or a chemical weapon is more mentally effective against an attacker. I have had guys laugh at the business end of an H+K 45acp, these are the same guys that comply real quick when my partner pulls his PR24-X. They seem to believe that you are much more likely to use non-leathal force and are less likely to try you. While you and I know that this is false, it does seem to be common behavior amoung the mentally lacking out there.

Just my $0.02, take it for what is worth.
 
A couple things, Ed. It makes it a bit difficult since you didn't specify a price range or a size range.

If you've got the bread -- $150+ -- a large Carson F4 could be just the perfect ticket for you. CRKT is putting one out yet this year. Don't know if they're gonna offer both sizes or not. They say the little one cuts big, but if there is some psychological value in the blade you select, it may simpy be too small.

I got one of Normark's first Concealex/Kydex sheaths for the CRKT Companion. It came set up for outside belt carry, but that is just the matter of removing a couple screws. There is a second, small/thin G-clip that should make for a very thin package if used IWB.

My copy of the knife came very sharp. It actually has a slightly shorter blade than the KFF folder, but not much. There is something about the shape of the blade that instantly translates the information that it was made for stabbing/cutting flesh. The handle is great, unless you have super large hands.

If you're not worried about legalities, I'd seriously consider the Boker Mini-Smatchet. Jerry Van Cook's review in TK displayed quite a bit more enthusiasm than his reviews usually do. He said something to the effect that his long search for a mid-size concealable fighting knife was over. It has both edges sharpened, tho not a typical dagger shape. I've been surprised in my time on the forums that the knife is almost never mentioned. It sure appears to be solid and well-made. I think it has considerable utility value, in addition to its combat capabilities.

Good luck in your search.
 
Originally posted by R.W.Clark
Am I missing the point here? You have a Kimber and a BM710 and want another knife? Another life ago, before the DODPD I did some PSS and escort work. Another leathal weapon just does not add up.

The explanation:
1. In a takeaway attempt, my right hand will have bad guy's hand locked onto the Kimber and you can bet I will try to pop his wrist with a spin move. The fixed blade, available with my weak (left) hand can give me a potent deterrent to his attempt to take my firearm.
2. Because of the number of juristictions I go through the Kimber is often in the lock box.
3. In the worst case scenario (under the bad guy's drop) The Kimber and the 710 are obvious, the weak side fixed blade could be missed in an amature frisk. The fixed blade could provide one last attempt at survival if the other alternative looked inevitable.
That's how I see it, thanks for the post. Ed
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Without knowing what attire you may be wearing, my experience tells me to avoid the blades with the rubber type grips variety. While they do offer a good grip purchase, they also snag on ones clothing. This may lead to: hinderance in speed of deployment; "printing" for those who "watch". I also strongly believe that any blade that you may want to carry for PP (Personal Protection) purposes, primary or backup, it should be a FIXED blade. Consider a Dozier made... www.dozierknives.com

Nakano
 
Good point, same is true with handgun grips. Rubber has just enough tackiness to hang onto your clothes. I'll check the Dozier site. Ed
 
Well I've been a cop for 32 years. Done uniform patrol, plainclothes and undercover. Have been in numerous hairy situations and have never needed a knife, let alone two! The chemical agents, particularly OC or an ASP make much more sense.
 
BTW ED45, whatever you decide to carry make sure you get proper
training in its' use before trying to deploy/use it. Otherwise
you're likely to find it placed in a warm, dark and moist place not to your liking.
 
Originally posted by Richard K
BTW ED45, whatever you decide to carry make sure you get proper
training in its' use before trying to deploy/use it. Otherwise
you're likely to find it placed in a warm, dark and moist place not to your liking.
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LE experiences are not always a good correlation to private security. I have a friend I work with who is nationally known and some of his worst recruits have been former LE. That is NOT IN ANY way an attempt to cast aspersions on your fine career; its just that LE in working for a municipality is very much different from private security work eventhough at first glace one would think they're in the same bag. I DO appreciate your advice. I do try to keep up on training; will be at a ground fighting class in a couple weeks. Ed
 
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