Recommendation? Bailout Alternative

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Adan, May 26, 2019.

  1. ScooterG

    ScooterG You mean Ireland? Yeah, it’s mine. Platinum Member

    Mar 15, 2016
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  2. Grandmaster

    Grandmaster Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 14, 2015
    Try the Hogue version of the Grip, much better than the original Benchmade, looks and performs great
  3. Lapedog


    Dec 7, 2016
    Honestly glockboy an scooterG are right; the only real option is disposable blades. Nothing is going to cut roofing shingles for long before it is going to be beyond dull.

    Check out the Spectrum Energetics utilizer if you want to have the flyest disposable blade knife on any roof.
  4. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    Yes, by your own omission nonetheless. On average, I'd not expect 3v to have better edge retention than s30v. Your entire premise was a fail before you started. I'm not trying to be rude, just telling it as I've experienced.

    I agree with others that a box cutter with disposable blades is a far more effective option.
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  5. Comeuppance

    Comeuppance Fixed Blade EDC Emisssary

    Jan 12, 2013
    Aye, I hate to bore you with a consensus, but there aren’t any blade steels designed to hold up to shingles or any silica-embedded materials.

    If you’re dead-set on a knife, I’d opt for something like Maxamet that has loads of wear resistance and strength. Maybe Elmax.

    Really, though, you’ll get more mileage with utility razors.
  6. cbrstar

    cbrstar Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 7, 2015
    Pm3. There's nothing not to like about the knife
  7. scottc3

    scottc3 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 11, 2014
    Ditto what Comeuppance said-
    I see a new material to test edges against: composition single:rolleyes:
    Because, well because lasers would be unsafe...
  8. rxavage


    Aug 16, 2014
    I use a Milwaukee hawksbill for skinning, it’s one of many cause, let’s face it, I’m a knife addict.
  9. Dogdrawz

    Dogdrawz Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 15, 2016
    $190 worth of blades should last a while. :):thumbsup:
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  10. bachman44

    bachman44 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 30, 2018
    I couldn't imagine trying to use a folding knife with any steel when I was roofing. Get the hook blades for cutting shingles and keep them fresh. Then, you can use your bugout for cutting the bundles open.
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  11. bearfacedkiller

    bearfacedkiller Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 23, 2014
    No steel will hold an edge cutting shingles. On top of that I would expect a lot of edge damage.

    If you want a knife that otherwise meets your criteria then get a ManixLW in S110V.
  12. Hackenslash

    Hackenslash Don't feed the Trolls Platinum Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    As the consensus have said: for cutting shingles go with a sturdy, disposable blade.

    Neither a Bugout nor a Bailout, even in adamantium, would last long against shingles.
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  13. Adan


    Feb 7, 2015
    Wow, you weren't even trying huh? Pardon me, but rudeness seems to come easily to you. :rolleyes:

    Thanks for the advice everyone. Maybe roofing shingles are just too tough a task for any folding knife. I'll look into the Spyderco Manix LW S110V, and maybe a Havalon Piranta.
    Last edited: May 27, 2019
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  14. ScooterG

    ScooterG You mean Ireland? Yeah, it’s mine. Platinum Member

    Mar 15, 2016
  15. Mo2


    Apr 8, 2016
    Not sure how well it would work on roofing tiles, but he could carbidized the edge of his fancy knife. Not idea for cutting some things due to its not so perfect edge. But it may help cut that media. I don't have experience with that but have read a lot about it.
  16. Therom


    Nov 13, 2013
    I think the point here is to get the right tool for the right job...

    If you have a good knife it can support you for most tasks, however the concept of a tool is often to been both efficient and disposable

    A tool tends to get beaten and abuse per nature.

    If you want to do some roofing, get a tool designed for that, and get the cheapest one to save some money for a better knife :)
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  17. Mo2


    Apr 8, 2016

    From Cedric Ada tests you can see that s90v has more edge retention than 52100... But what happens when you cut sand paper? Complete opposite results. Please take into consideration that one data point is not enough to encompass what knife edge retention actually is. And there is likely no steel in a pocket knife that's going to be effective at cutting very abrasive materials.
    Last edited: May 28, 2019
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