Baldric Rig Question

[Gautier]

Some time ago I saw a post that featured a woven or braided baldric setup for carrying a canteen/water bottle. I think it may have been some of Doc's work, but could be mistaken. Tried searching, to no avail. Anyone happen to know what I'm talking about and if so, is there a sort of tutorial to make such a rig?
I think this might just be the solution for going lighter in gear and still carrying water effectively and comfortably. Add to that the fact that I'll probably make it up from spare paracord, it could possibly serve as extra rope "just in case". Thanks in advance.


Gautier

 

[DOC-CANADA]

Some time ago I saw a post that featured a woven or braided baldric setup for carrying a canteen/water bottle. I think it may have been some of Doc's work, but could be mistaken. Tried searching, to no avail. Anyone happen to know what I'm talking about and if so, is there a sort of tutorial to make such a rig?
I think this might just be the solution for going lighter in gear and still carrying water effectively and comfortably. Add to that the fact that I'll probably make it up from spare paracord, it could possibly serve as extra rope "just in case". Thanks in advance.


Gautier

Hey Gautier, are referring to me? And if so, do you mean this?:

Or this?:

Because, if so, they are netted, not braided or woven.

There's actually a much easier way to carry water. Get most any good knot book and look up jug sling or you can use a jug knot in conjunction with an Asher's equalizer. Both are fast and easy and can be made on the spot with a bit of paracord. If you want, I can email you directions.

Doc

 

[Gautier]

That'd be the one You'll have to pardon my ignorance on the semantics, couldn't clearly picture it in the old noodle, but I knew what I was after. Did you follow some sort of tutorial or pattern for that particular piece, or is it just years of experience working with cordage?
I'm familiar with the jug knot, can't say as I know what Asher's equalizer looks like though. Guess in hindsight I should have been a boatswain's mate instead of a gunner's mate. I appreciate the advice, I'll see if I can't find an instructional for Asher's equalizer.
Don't imagine it'll be quite as aesthetically pleasing or decorative as your netting, but if it gets the job done and saves me the trouble of belt carrying canteens(which inevitably end up dragging my trousers down) then I'll be better off.


Gautier

 

[DOC-CANADA]

That'd be the one You'll have to pardon my ignorance on the semantics, couldn't clearly picture it in the old noodle, but I knew what I was after. Did you follow some sort of tutorial or pattern for that particular piece, or is it just years of experience working with cordage?


Gautier

No worries, G. It's just a basic netting pattern. If you have an interest, take a little bit of time and learn how to net. It's an excellent skill to have. You can make fish nets, turtle traps, critter nets, carrying bags, and all kinds of other things. Learning how to net is very easy, I kid you not.

Take a shot over here. There is quite a bit of information and one of the residents is a guy that posts as asemery. He teaches net making and is a really nice guy and is very generous with his information. Also, if you start learning, I'll help you with whatever I can. If you have any questions, feel free.

One place I know that you can find the Asher's Equalizer is in "The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Knots & Ropework, Geoffrey Budworth, Prospero Books, 1999, ISBN# 1-55267-986-1" Maybe the local library has it.

Doc

 

[Gautier]

Thanks, Doc. I've actually contemplated tinkering with a bit of netting, and I'll admit that what I've seen(mostly dealing with prusik knots and such) didn't look too terribly hard. Guess I've got a reason to stop putting it off now I can definitely see the potential uses in a wilderness/survival situation for all sorts of things. Still trying to perfect my technique of natural cordage making, so that was my main reason for putting it off.
As an aside I did manage to make a 3/16th inch piece of natural cordage capable of supporting about 20lbs. :thumbup:

I'll certainly take a look at that site, and if I have any questions I know who to talk to. Thanks again, Doc.


Gautier

 

[DOC-CANADA]

Hey G,
It's not like you have to learn a ton of knots. About the only knot that is used is a Sheet Bend. There is a book that I used to teach myself how to net. It's: Netmaking, Charles Holdgate, Emerson Books Inc., 1972, SBN# 87523-180-2. I originally got it from the library and photocopied it. Quite often it's offered in used on-line bookstores for about $10.00.

It was originally written to teach teachers how to teach school children (I guess that's why I was successful ). It starts out teaching how to tie the basic knot and then you work through a series of ever more difficult (not that they are) projects, each of which teaches you one or more new techniques. There are other ones available too.

These are the books I have:

Netmaking, Charles Holdgate, Emerson Books Inc., 1972, SBN# 87523-180-2 (highly recommended)

Down East Netting, Barbara M. Morton, Pea Soup Publishing, 1988, ISBN#
0-9728496-0-2 (an interesting book and it would also do the trick)

Make Nets Here's How, H.T. Ludgate, Jann's Netcraft, 1976. (very inexpensive book and available from Jann's Netcraft) I used this book to make my Snapping Turtle trap.

Mat and Basket Weaving of the Ancient Hawaiians, William T. Brigham, Bishop Museum Press, 1906, N/A (historical and specialized - free download, not recommended for beginners)

Netmaking, P. W. Blandford, Brown, Son, & Ferguson, 1986, ISBN# 0 85174 491 5 (just got it a little while ago on the recommendation of asemery - haven't had a chance to check it out much yet)

A Text-Book of Netting and Net Making, Blackfriars Press, (orig.) 1948,
ISBN# 978-1-40679-871-5 (also a recent acquisition - also have had no chance to check it out)

How To Make & Mend Cast Nets, Ted Dahlem, Great Outdoors Publishing, 2000, ISBN# 0-8200-0612-2 (specialized for making cast nets - not recommended for beginning net makers)


Good Luck,

Doc