Bali Lube

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After receiving my BM 42, it began to squeak. I could feel friction from lack of lubricant. If any of you have had or are experiencing this, I have been introduced to the best bali lube available:

Militec-1

This stuff is incredible! My 42 is smoother and quieter than when I first used it. I am blown away by the performance.

Not only that but it is pretty cheap the 1oz bottle will last you a LONG time and it was here in 3 days! You can visit their website at militec-1.com

Thanks for all your help Chuck!



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"Balisong fever is spreading..."
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BM42s come from the factory treated with Militec-1. When that starts to wear thin, I recommend continuing with Militec-1. It's kind of pricey as lubricants go, $5 an oz., but as Mr. Payback points out, an ounce will last a long, long time if all you're doing is lubricating your balisongs with it.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
I've been having good results with White Lightning on all my folding blades.I treated my bm-42's with it and works very smoothly.I recommend this product highly also.Ralph
 
I have been using tuf-glide for all my balisongs. I'm near the end of the bottle. I am pretty happy with tuf-glide, but would be interested in hearing more about other lubes. What are they made of, do the leave any residue . . . anything else? Has anyone else used tuf-glide? How do other lubes compare. Tuff glide is also a rust inhibitor. When we're talking about a five or ten bucks for maybe a hundred applications, cost doesn't really concern me.
Thank's
James
 
I agree!

Militec-1 was MADE for the Balisong. I was using Tuff-glide before, but still had to lube up every other day.

With Militec-1, I can go three weeks without having to add. Just make sure you follow the directions for best results.

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Clay
www.balisongxtreme.com
Because......
getting 'em open
is half the fun!
 
I was talking to my dad and he mentioned that he has used this stuff called "Graphite" (I don't know how it is spelled, I'm just guessing). I'll try to find it and let you guys know how it works.

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Cameron

"It takes a killer...to stop a killer"
 
Graphite is one of three forms of elementary carbon (the others being diamond and buckyballs), and it´s the stuff you write with when you use a pencil. Graphite is used as a dry lubricant, when you don´t want to get dirt stuck on a lubricated surface, as with most fluid lubricants. It is often used in lock cylinders etc. Graphite is quite messy, but would probably work.
 
I used graphite on my pinewood derby car years ago heh

just a lil FYI it works alright but is a pain in the ass on a white shirt
Nate

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At first I thought that Graphite was the name of a lube, I didn't think that it was actual graphite (stuff you use for your speedometer and pencils). So far it's worked pretty good, don't know how long it'll last. Thanks

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Cameron
"It takes a killer...to stop a killer"

ICQ# 77993406
 
I have a few questions for the people who use or have used militec-1.

About how long will 1 oz of it last if it will only be used for balisongs?

Do you have to get the applicator tip or can you use something else (q-tip, tooth pick, stick, etc)?



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Cameron
"It takes a killer...to stop a killer"

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The 1oz bottle will last you a LONG, LONG time. You only need a small drop per pin on the bali.

It is a weapons grade lubricant that is used mainly for guns.

The applicator tip is not necessary at all. The bottle itself is plastic with a eyedropper type tip, so it is very easy to apply.

I highly recommend Militec-1.

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"Balisong fever is spreading..."
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The 1oz. bottle has a little eye-dropper sort of tip which is just fine for applying the product to balisongs.

To lube a balisong completely requires four drops. While drop is not a precise measure, there are approximately 1100 drops in an oz of water. This is not water, but let's use that number. Clay says he gets several weeks between applications and I suspect he's about as demanding as balisong artists get. So, if you apply four drops every two weeks then:

1 oz 1100 Drops 1 treatment
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1 bottle 1 oz 4 drops

2 weeks 1 Year 10 1/2 years
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1 Treatment 52 weeks 1 bottle


If you have four balisongs, then divide that by four and you'll still get over two and a half years out of a 1 oz. bottle.

This makes the big assumption that you'll only lube your balisongs with it.

The applicator they sell is more for getting the stuff into the mechanisms of guns. For a balisong, it's fine to just put a drop on the tang just above the joint and let it run down in. Do this for both joints on both sides. Move the joints slowly for a minute or so to spread the Militec-1 around inside the joints. Wipe off any obvious excess so it doesn't fly everywhere. Go to it for a couple of minutes. Then, stop and wipe off the excess again. That should do it.




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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
Note to self: don't try posting math formulas on the forum. It doesn't work.

chuck
 
The unit-conversion math is something I learned in high school chemistry. Mr. George Johnson (who won the Dow Chemical Catalyst Award winner (a very prestigious national award for high school chemistry teachers) a few years earlier) insisted we learn that. I never saw it in any of my other high school classes and never saw it in a math, science, or engineering class in college either. A very powerful tool. Mr. Johnson taught me most everything I know about chemistry. Chemistry in college was strictly a weed-out class designed to flunk as many students as possible. It would have and probably should have stopped me had I not had Mr. Johnson for high school chemistry. In this respect, I owe Mr. Johnson a huge debt.

He also taught us the importance of estimating something quickly. A quick estimate is often just as good as a detailed calculation. I've been in design reviews where some eager new grad is presenting his design. Some old fart eager to knock the poor kid down a notch will say something like "what about the power dissipation?" The kid'll get this horrified look on his face. He forgot about that. He reaches for his fancy laptop and starts to create an xcell spread sheet to calculate it and just as he's gettin' the thing booted, I'll say, "It's about three Watts. That sink is rated for five, so it'll be fine." Finally, the kid figures it all out and says, "It's 2.943 Watts." Yeah, what'd I say? About three Watts. How did I do it? I estimated! Had my estimate been "about five Watts," I'd have wanted to do all the math and know the exact number. But, had my estimate been about five Watts, I want a bigger heat sink just because. So I was off by 57 mWatts. My estimate was good enough and it was a lot faster.

Mr. Johnson taught us the fast disappearing art of logarithms by making us use slide rules. I'm not so old that calculators weren't readily available at the time. But Mr. Johnson confined us to those old slide rules and forces us to learn logs. Another fantastic tool for making fast estimates in your head. I've had young new-grads do designs for me and bring me the finished design with their MathCAD printouts in hand and I've looked at the circuit and said, "Wrong." And they've said, "No way. Look, I worked it all out on the computer. What's wrong?" "The gain of the amplifier is off by quite a bit." "How do you know?" "I can estimate it in my head. Go back and look at the formulas that you put in the computer." Sure enough. They'll come back explaining that they'd made a mistake setting up the computer. I've done this myself, but when I saw my output, I said, "That's way out of the ballpark." I don't know what the exact result should be. If I knew that, I wouldn't be using the computer. But, I have a gut guess of about what it should be and when the result I get is to far from that quickie estimate, I know something is wrong. It was Mr. Johnson who taught me that.

Finally, it was Mr. Johnson who taught me to say, "That's highly undesirable." He never got mad, never criticized. He just shook his head and said, "That's undesirable," or of it was really bad, "That's highly undesirable."

He had this sort of understated way of putting things. "Avoid spilling the concentrated acid on your hand as this can be painful." "If the chemicals in today's experiment are mixed in the wrong order, a toxic gas may result. Therefore, I suggest you work under the fume hood."

So, there you have it. My high school chemistry teacher, George Johnson. What relationship he has to balisongs is unclear.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
Chuck,

As so many others have said, "You are da man"!

Your tail of your high school chemestry teacher is getting printed out and presented to my son who starts high school in the Fall.

Thanks,

Nick
 
being as Im only starting my sophmore year in college, and was a culinary arts major, my math classes are a lil under most others.
However, my father was ashop teacher for 10yrs, my great grandfather designed franklin aircraft and car motors as well.
in my youth I learned such things as "oopps" "godd***it" and "dont tell mom"
also ducttape makes a decent bandage when applied properly. in all serious though...a good educated estimate can be quiteefficient and although my math skills are below some of my peers, I seem to be able to keep up. because I trust my judgement and I estimate first.
I find thatI do more things on scratch paper than with my calculator....this vastly pisses off my professor since I can do most of my math in my head and only scribble notes to myself to keep things in order....am I alone?

Nate
 
Making an estimate before even starting an elaborate calculation is a great idea, especially on an exam. This way, if you make a mistake in your detailed calculation, you'll catch it and realize that you hit the zero button one to many times somewhere during the calculation. This will save you from giving a wrong answer on an exam. That could be very important.

And knowing how logs work lets you really expand your ability to make estimates quickly in your head. I also think there's something about having used a slide rule that helps you see the relationships between numbers that a calculator doesn't teach.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
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