Balisong CD?

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I don't know about anyone else, but my local internet connection really sucks and by that I mean 24000 to 26400 top speed even though I have a 56k modem. Apparently the phone lines in my area are from the 60's or something and thats as fast as they can handle. This leads to HUGE problems downloading video's since a 30 second clip can take me up to 15 minutes to download. I would love to see the videos that are available on Clay's site and others burned onto a CD that I could purchase. It sure would be a life saver. So I guess my question is to Clay: Is there anyway that I can buy a CD all the videos, gifs, and descriptions? I don't know if you have the ability to do this or know someone that can but I would be VERY greatful.

Mark



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Great idea
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I could probably have one of my 'geek' friends (the one's with T-1 lines at home) to download Clay's stuff to a CD/DVD and watch it with slo-motion etc on my DVD player.

But, I'd rather see Clay make some $$ off it. How 'bout it Clay? Help the total spaz's among us to at least be adequate. An the cost of the CD/DVD would be less than I spend on Band-Aids
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"Don't get even, get odd."
 
Yeah, I'd like to see it make Clay some money too, thats why I didn't just ask someone to copy everything from his site and burn me a CD.
 
I have the same problem with my internet connection. I have a 56k voicewin modem and another one (supposedly faster) that came with my intel webcam. The strange thing is that a couple of months ago, I was regularly getting a 33.6 connection, but recently I have only been getting 28.8 if I'm lucky. I've heard that other sites and servers have been having problems too. I wonder if we are heading toward "The Big Crash"??

I would be interested in buying a cd from Clay too, since viewing the videos is out of the question on my connection.
 
Wow, it's funny that this should come up.

I just received a brand new printer yesterday (HP 990cse) that I had ordered with just such a thing in mind. I also have the CD burner, the labels, blank booklet inserts, jewel cases, and the blank CD's.


My idea was to start with a CD of the site for those with slow connections. It would be structured exactly the same as the site is now (with a few minor changes).

Then maybe put a few more together, each with it's own focus. Maybe one with drills, one focusing on Finger twirls, one focusing on throws, etc.........

This way people can select the thing they want to work on, and see it from it's easiest point through to the more advanced stages.......... a "pick your poison" kind of system.


I'm just wondering if there are going to be compatability issues when playing them on a MAC. If anyone has any info on this potential problem please let me know.

Also, what do you guys think would be a fair price for something like this??
 
Training videos generally run $15-$25. I'd think that at least $15 is worth it for all of the material you provide.

The files you have are very good and I don't want to be seen as being in any way critical of them, but the images are small and the motion isn't that great. Your CD Rom burner can probably also burn VCD disks. A VCD is like a DVD but it's on a CD media so common CD ROM burners can make them. Most newer DVD players can play VCDs. The Windows Media Player can also play them on a Windoz computer (I'm sure MAC's got something that'll play 'em too). The motion and and image are nearly DVD quality. And the image is full-screen size. As I recall, you can put something like 40 minutes of video on one.

Anyway, the motion and the video quality are much better than VHS Tape and you can take advantage of all many of the DVD features like perfect frame advance, excellent slow forward and backward, perfect freeze frame, instant access to specific tracks and even specific points in the program right down to the second. My player will even let you give it a start time and a stop time and it'll just loop through that section again and again and again. Very useful for studying a specific technique. I have one training video of stick techniques done this way. Unfortunately, most of the audio is in Indonesian, but the video quality is great. Much better than VHS. This is the way to do training videos.

But, to do that, you'd have to reshoot all of your stuff with a good camera, etc. So, I'd be a lot of work to reshoot is all and edit it and so forth. But, eventually, that might be something to do. Much better than a VHS tape, IMHO.

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Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com


[This message has been edited by Gollnick (edited 02-16-2001).]
 
VCD can load up to about 50 mins of movie. Quality is less than DVD but definitely will last longer than a VHS.

Standard Windows Media Player can play VCD (current version is 2.0)

My suggestion is: to get Clay started up and maybe get better equipment, for us who can't have the download, just order the CD from Clay with the current shootage.

From then on, Clay can move on to the bigger project (re-shoot the movie as suggested by Chuck) maybe one day Clay will also publish a book on this (HURRAY!), titled: The Beautiful Art of Balisong Manipulation
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It is so fun to see some hobbies turn into cash inflow.

Best, Chris.
 
I've already put the *.mpg's from Clay's site on vcd and they look really good. The avi's are not so good, as the have alot lower framerate and are very short. The funny thing is Gollnick, as soon as I got a new cdr that would burn vcd's without crashing I went right to Clay's site to start making my own "training tape".

And yes I would buy a cd of the site, or vcd of the techniques to play in my dvd player.

Heck I'd just like to help Clay make the thing happen, as I think dvd training videos are the wave of the future. So drop me line if I can do anything to help Clay.
P.S. I work at a TV station.


[This message has been edited by loki67 (edited 02-16-2001).]
 
I've downloaded all the videos on my 46k connection. Because I need to HAVE it, watch it when I want. Streaming sucks.
And, what if Clay's site is taken down? One never knows...

I think it's about 150 MB in total.

Anyway, I'd buy your CD, Clay ! Whatever the cost!

And if the video quality gets better... grooovy !!



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>>30 second clip can take me up to 15 minutes to download

It depends on the format. I have a cable connection and it took less than one min. to download a video clip from Clays site.

Even a broadband or cable connection will be considered slow one of these days. With fiber optics there is a potential if they ever develop it to transmit data at the speed of light. Thanks, JohnR7
 
Clay:

I vote for VCD and the info you already have on your site is probably more than I'll ever be able to master
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I'd gladly pay $20 for some training info I could plug into my DVD and play at a speed I could actually comprehend.

BTW John, all info pretty much travens at the speed of light already, it's actually a ?? of how 'wide' a beam, not the speed
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Just let us know when to send ya $$ Clay!

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"Don't get even, get odd."
 
A CD/DVD version of your website (clay) is a great idea, I'd buy one. Maybe, you could venture into something bigger. Like a multimedia software title, which gives the user a history of the balisong, shows lots of pics/movies, some 3d illustrations of particular manipulations, and various other stuff.

Just a thought, but a CD title for something like 'the art of the balisong' or 'the balisong art' would be a very unique piece of software.


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~Howdy

"Wow, BOB, Wow!" - the Arm
http://www.firewalkwithme.org

[This message has been edited by Cpt. Howdy (edited 02-16-2001).]
 
Make sure it is Mac compatiable! Lots of us Mac users out there. And, can a CD version be made? I have no DVD. 32x CD on a Dell, and a 4x on a 75 Mhz Mac (w/64mb RAM!). I would get a G4 soon, but I'm saving for a CBR-600! If it would work on one of my computers, I would buy it without a second thought! Go for it, you might end up rich!
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By the way, the 75Mhz Mac out-performs the 200mhz Dell!
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Think Different!

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“Society is safer when the criminals don’t know who’s armed!”
 
VCD are the most common video support in China, SE Asia...
But transforming Clay's videos into a VCD is maybe a lot of work for a beginning (it's a good idea to keep in mind, as a 2nd step).
I think that first, the structure of the website (folders, html files, pictures, videos in AVI/MPEG format) could be OK. We could use our browser to surf on the CD.

There's also something I would suggest to those who are really impatient to have Clay's website at home... download a offline-browser on www.download.com (example : "webzip", "back widow", ...), it's free, you launch it and it can retrieve a whole website and download it on your local drive. It will take you some time to download the whole site, but it's nothing comparing to a surf with a manual "save as".

Guillaume

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www.balisong.net
 
I've actually done this already, using grbsite3. It was sometime last year, I think around December. So it might be a little outdated, but the total size in MB for Clay's site was around 147 MB. Browsing the CD in IE worked great. One thing about grbsite (and probably all other web grabbers) is that it fixes the links to the local references. All links like "www.blahblah.com/something/index.html" are fixed to something like ".\WebRoot\something\index.html"

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~Howdy

"Wow, BOB, Wow!" - the Arm
http://www.firewalkwithme.org

[This message has been edited by Cpt. Howdy (edited 02-19-2001).]
 
"Who uses a 200 Mhz anymore?"

Unfortunitly, I do. It works for surfing the web just fine, and were geting a new one later this year when the prices on satalite internet sevices comes down. Right now, the limitation is not the processor, but the conection. I've seen the download rate as low as 600 bites</> per sec!

I want to get a 733 G4, or deul proccesor 533mhz Macintosh. But like I said before, I'm saving for a CBR 600.
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“Society is safer when the criminals don’t know who’s armed!”
 
"Who uses a 200 Mhz anymore?"

Unfortunitly, I do. It works for surfing the web just fine, and were geting a new one later this year when the prices on satalite internet sevices comes down. Right now, the limitation is not the processor, but the conection. I've seen the download rate as low as 600 bites per sec!

I want to get a 733 G4, or deul proccesor 533mhz Macintosh. But like I said before, I'm saving for a CBR 600.
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oops, where did that other "B" go?
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