Balisong Weapons System

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Hey everybody,

I'm new to the forum. Hope I get to talk to all of you at one point or another.

Here's some info on me.
-studied martial arts for over 15 yrs.
-currently help run a karate studio in
Sparks, NV. (check it out on the web
www.lhallmartialarts.com)
-played w/ balisong for a while now.
got bored w/ Jeff Imada's books, so went to
the web and found Balisongxtreme. Great
site.

On to the knife stuff:

I am currently creating a balisong system, in which people can learn to defend them selves w/ a balisong, open or closed, or opening the balisong in the middle of a technique.

This system will be available on video eventually so hopefully it will go world wide.

Alot of the techniques can use a folding knife for people who live in a state that prohibits balisong ownership, and wish to obey the law, even though it is a stupid one.

Some things about the system:
-Male and Female V steps used.
-14 strikes pattern used for hatchet and icepick grips.(similar to escrima or arnis systems)
-approx 40 openings and closings
-secondary use of the escrima, and asp.
-closed and opened fighting techniques.

Anyways,

What would you guys like to see in a balisong system. Keep in mind it has to be practical and street efficient.

Let me know,

Classact
 
What i would like to see:

- concealed carry variations, from inside the pocket to xtreme concealex
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- draw techniques
- use of walking stick, umbrella or anything you can get your hands on
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I agree with draw techniques, i would consider this an important one.

An emphasis on the most practical and easiest transitions from forehand to backhand.

Learning to feel the knife's position withour actually seeing it.

The quietest openings.


Just some ideas, knowing nothing about fighting in general let alone knife fighting.


Sounds like a great idea, can't wait to get a glimpse at the video!


 
Well, if you're going to emphasize a particular type of knife, you might as well spend some time on the drawstroke. The balisong, more than any other knife, demands a smooth and practiced draw.

When you say that you want to teach "opening a balisong in the middle of a technique", I assume you mean control techniques or as Bram-style force escalation. Cool: I have always felt that the balisong is like the Gunting (vice versa, in truth) in its force escalation capabilities. As such, it might be prudent to adopt a legality-driven perspective in your teaching. This is smart for anything, weapon or empty hand.

One thing I wonder about: you mention that you wish to teach 40 openings and closings. How many of these have an immediate combat application? I know a lot of techniques (aerials, finger rolls etc.) that I consciously exclude from serious training.
 
and by the way, your link doesnt work due to that "end-parenthasis" at the end of it.
 
My bad on the link. www.lhallmartialarts.com

there.
In response to the comments:

-Draw techniques will be included.
-The system of Goju-Kenpo (the base of my balisong system) believes in using whatever you to to survive a fight.
-quick and simple transitions are included in the openings and closings part of the system.
 
An important point would be a logical and international terminology for
- balisong techniques (attacks, blocks...)
- opening & closing

I would also advice to avoid to base your system on forms (kata).
You could create some forms for ranking exams (combinations of techniques, opening, closing, moves...) but it should be very limitated in the practise.

The point would be to find "concepts" like in JKD. It's modern, rational, easy to keep in mind and close to the actual mentality in the MA (I think).

Guillaume

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